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The female executioner for Numerus Brittonum et Exploratorum Nemanigensium

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Thank you very much for liking it and for taking a close look Morten.
What I enjoy, is to enlighten this crucifixion out of the various perspectives. Daniela's, Cire's and Andrea's crucifixion will be monitored by Dena. Up to that point she is an ececutioners trainee. The fact that she will watch the execution of the two male slaves, Daniela, Cire and Andrea will let us look with Dena's eyes.
The characters are not fiction. All of them are real. With Daniela telling me how she is looking at the killings, crucified. Too bad that I couldn't convince her to join the forum and completely state with her words and feelings.... but 100%, she is bitching all over the place.
Well, there is a lot of things to achieve:devil:.
Nice, very interesting about Daniela, that she"s a real character. Many thanks for sharing your wonderful stories, looking forward for the following parts.
 
THE SLAVE DANIELAS WHIPPING

As planned, Dena got up in the early morning to witness the executions of the arrested criminals and slaves.
Arriving at the atrium, the two male slaves were just forced by the guards to carry the crossbeams to the execution site. The torturers allowed them to put their clothes back on after the flogging. Dena was thinking to herself: "Honestly, all that these guys are actually wearing now, is a bunch of bloodstained rags." She couldn't resist to laugh, just like most of the spectators.

Not that many people were there yet, though more and more arrived at the scene. The executioners led the condemned slave Daniela into the center of the atrium, and then with certain amusement, merciless tore her clothes off.

The girl was obviously very ashamed, flushed, covered here vagina and her breasts as good as possible, to be then pushed towards the about one meter high wooden stake in the center of the place. The guards grabbed her arms roughly, and tied her hands behind the back to the top of it. Loud laughter filled the atrium, since the slave was starting to swear at her torturers, now blushed because of her anger.

Another guard kneeled down, and tied her left calve to the stake. A measure that forced her to lean back, with her buttocks onto the top of the stake.
The executioner, who wanted to keep her standing as long as possible, decided to chose a whip with just one strong lash and then stepped back some.

Dena knew that the torturer was absolutely aware of the correct distance for his whip. Hasn't he been teaching her, how to tear a condemned professionally apart with it.
He now laughing, ignored the cursing, naked condemned opposite to him, and had the whip do a loud crack besides the female delinquent.

Again a hissing of the whip. This time like previously, followed by a crack, but with the screams of the slave. The first lash went across her upper torsos left side, just above her breasts. She screamed cursed, threw her head back and tried to keep control over her body. This caused her pushing her swaying boobs out, an excellent position to receive the next hit amazingly perfect under the first one. That one directly above her left nipple. The executioner worked his way down to the shin, hitting the condemned girl exactly then times on the left side of her body. He then stepped over, and did the same to her right side.
Daniela was by now breathing heavy, but still concious. The front of her body showed a perfect pattern of cracked skin, with blood running down her body, dripping into the sand. Merging there with her male friends blood and body fluids.

The executioner turned around to the audience theatrically and encouraged the people to applaud, he then stepped behind his victim, asking her if she still thought he was an asshole.
Dena knew what would happen if she'd say "yes". He'd pull out a Flagrum. A horrible whip, designed to literally cut the victim into pieces. Nevertheless, she knew, sometimes he'd pull it out anyway.
But the by now pale slave couldn't reply at all anymore. Shock, bloodloss, pain, shame left the rebellious girl quiet since a while already. The executioner was laughing anew and the growing crowd cheered.

Thus the whip newly hissed through the air and was cutting into Danielas right shoulder. Ten lashes to the right side from the rear. Down the back, the buttocks, back of the thighs and calves. By now the girl was not even screaming anymore. She was more or less just hanging on the stake, as the executioner started to finish his work with the whipping of the left side of her back. When he got done she completely broke down, was untied, and dragged to the side.
Meanwhile the two criminals were guarded to the center of the atrium, a good chance given to them, to watch and to get an impression. Dena saw the horror in the faces of the two, and smiled again.
"Very well done" she thought, while the executioner wiped the sweat off his face.

The guards dumped a few buckets of cold water onto the flogged slave Daniela, to have her conscious again. Then they told her to get dressed with her torn clothes. She managed to wrap a rope around her waist and looped the loincloth through it front and back, enough to cover her sex and butt. As soon as she was done with the tunic, they loaded that Patibulum onto her back and tied her arms to it. The appearance of the whipped slave was by now more than sorry. Dressed in bloody rags, covered with sweat, dirt and blood she walked barefooted out of the atrium, once more causing loud laughter amongst the crowd.
Dena decided to walk with her, to check out how she was going to be crucified.......
 
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A WAY TO NAIL THE FEET

Dena had to learn about the diversity when it comes to attach the victims feet to the upright. Here one version found by Eulalia:

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ONE NAIL

A skeleton, and the information from the physicians helped her to spot the right place with her thumb on the foot. Once the nail was placed on top of the first foot, she had to hold the nail in her fist and drive it through until she could see or feel the tip coming out of the sole.
Then the already pierced foot had to be placed in a perfect manner on top of the other one. Dena had to check that the nail made it's way through the bottom foot correctly, too.
Easy to see now, why there was always a complete experienced team involved to crucify the condemned.

UNDER THE CONDEMNED

To nail the feet can be tricky for the executioner, especially when raised with the crossbeam. Dena was told that when she works literally under the condemned, there is always the danger that the victim may urinates. Therefore she had to learn to decide, when she'd give her victims to drink, or when she'd remove the loincloth.

This manip by PhilX can give us an idea what the executioners had to worry about:

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Watch out Dena but keep going.......
Phlebas has posted this picture, showing the nailing of the feet. This is an outstanding shot, documenting the nailing perfectly.
The executioner is depending on the hands of a second person, and also the delinquent. Most likely, the spectators weren't able to see the actual nailing.

When the condemned has the chance to lean forward some, at least she/he can exclusively watch, besides the executioners. Given the opportunity to the condemned to "help" his executioners by keeping the feet in the right place, and therefore minimize even more painful mistakes.

I'm convinced that very often the executioner had to advise the condemned, how and where to position his feet.
A thrilling situation. Just imagine.....

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DANIELAS PROCESSION

Dena left the atrium with the slave, that was led by a guard with a rope around her stomach. Not that many people did like Dena did, joining Danielas procession after the flogging. But outside of the fort a good crowd was waiting for the arrival of Daniela, since the landowner had advised that all the slaves in his household had to attend the execution. Daniela left a more than sorry impression, wearing a few few bloody rags, that only sparsely covered her beaten body.
Step by step did she move forward with the crossbeam on her shoulders. Step by step, barefoot, giving her best to make it to the execution site.


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Some male slave mocked her: "Hey Daniela, when I look at you from the side, I can spot your tits very well. You should go ahead and pull your tunic a little tighter."
A female slave from the household stepped closer, a little too close to her and said: "No problem when you can peep into the robe. Her body is torn by the flogging, and from what I can see it doesn't look that exciting anymore. Maybe things will change when she is hanging on her cross. Her big mouth seems to be shut. It got shut by the lashes."

All of a sudden Daniela twisted her upper body, hitting the bitching woman with the crossbeam right on the forehead, sending her into the dust.
The guards, Dena and almost all the people that accompanied Daniela on her last walk, screamed in amusement. Back on her feet the knocked down girl cursed even more, but now watching the correct distance to the condemned slave:

"You stupid bitch you. Don't you know that you are carrying that Patibulum to your execution? It looks like you're giving all you've got to be crucified. Walk a little faster, I can't wait to see you moving up and down on the cross."

The condemned looking up, interrupting her march: "Don't you come to close, or I will get you once more and maybe send you to hell, slut." While saying that, her face flushed again in anger, still insulting the previously knocked down slave.

Now the guard that was leading Daniela pulled the rope, telling her to keep going: "Move on woman, I want to see you crucified before it gets to hot in the sun." Saying that he gave her to drink plenty of the mixture that the soldiers normally prepare for the crucifixions, for themselves and the condemned. A wine and vinegar mix. As soon as the alcohol enfolded it's effect, Daniela started to stagger. The spectators again screamed with joy.

Then the procession arrived at the execution site. The executioners were about to finish the crucifixion of the second male slave, and attached the Titulus, stating that he was crucified because he was a "Friend of the rebellious slave Daniela". The two males were hanging side by side to each other, another stipes to the left of them was planned to finally hold Daniela. Attached with ropes and the arms behind the Patibulum, tied to the Stipes with the loincloth on, they looked more than stupid to the spectators.

One of the crucified screaming at Daniela: "Look at us, that is just because we believed in you and your talking. We are dying as an exemplary. People take that as a warning, or you will end up as we do."

A spectator screaming: "No idiot. You did right. This is quite some entertainment. You guys are fucking boring. This girl gave us one hell of a ball on the march."


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The guards didn't hesitate and took the crossbeam off of Danielas shoulders, attaching it to it's Stipes. Immediately a guard tore off the girls clothes, but also left the loincloth on. By ripping the clothes, some scourging wounds started bleeding again. Everybody could witness, how experienced Daniela was exposed to the whip. She covered her nipples as good as possible with her fingertips, then the guards pushed the helpless woman laughing towards her cross.


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Meanwhile Dena watched the guards leaning a ladder to one side of the Patibulum.....


Thank you very much Sorpio for your drawings. Your drawings, from my point of view, are giving a great idea of the march that the condemded had to face. Excellent.
 

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ASPECTS OF THE PROCESSION

Morten has posted this shot from a carrying scene. To me it expresses how a sparsely dressed condemned must have felt. Easy to understand that on the march, there must have been lots of laughter and mocking.

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What we can't get is the unbelieveable individual evil, that the condemned had to go through. When I think about it, every little bit of privacy was taken from the victims. More or less everybody could join the march, give a statement, or verbally attack the defenseless at any point of their dying.
It seems the victims got executed mentally first, or at least have been diminished massively, before the left over but still alive bodies were exhibited.

Then it's not hard to understand, that every stage of the crucifixion served a purpose.
That is sending shivers down my spine and arouses me..........

If I could get some sort of feedback, don't hesitate to write. Everybody is looking at things different and has her/his own emotions. This variation keeps the crucifixion shocking, even after thousands of years. Would you say something to her, if you'd attend the march? How would you feel if you'd be the victim? Very exciting. :firedevil:
 
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DANIELAS PROCESSION

Morten has posted this shot from a carrying scene. To me it expresses how a sparsely dressed condemned must have felt. Easy to understand that on the march, there must have been a lot of laughter and mocking.

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What we can't get is the unbelieveable individual evil, that the condemned had to go through. When I think about it, every little bit of privacy was taken from the victims. More or less everybody could join the march, give a statement, or verbally attack the defenseless at any point of their dying.
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Yeas, wonderful carrying and nice dress for march.
 
THE SLAVE DANIELAS WHIPPING

As planned, Dena got up in the early morning to witness the executions of the arrested criminals and slaves.
Arriving at the atrium, the two male slaves were just forced by the guards to carry the crossbeams to the execution site. The torturers allowed them to put their clothes back on after the flogging. Dena was thinking to herself: "Honestly, all that these guys are actually wearing now, is a bunch of bloodstained rags." She couldn't resist to laugh, just like most of the spectators.

Not that many people were there yet, though more and more arrived at the scene. The executioners led the condemned slave Daniela into the center of the atrium, and then with certain amusement, merciless tore her clothes off.

The girl was obviously very ashamed, flushed, covered here vagina and her breasts as good as possible, to be then pushed towards the about one meter high wooden stake in the center of the place. The guards grabbed her arms roughly, and tied her hands behind the back to the top of it. Loud laughter filled the atrium, since the slave was starting to swear at her torturers, now blushed because of her anger.

Another guard kneeled down, and tied her left calve to the stake. A measure that forced her to lean back, with her buttocks onto the top of the stake.
The executioner, who wanted to keep her standing as long as possible, decided to chose a whip with just one strong lash and then stepped back some.

Dena knew that the torturer was absolutely aware of the correct distance for his whip. Hasn't he been teaching her, how to tear a condemned professionally apart with it.
He now laughing, ignored the cursing, naked condemned opposite to him, and had the whip do a loud crack besides the female delinquent.

Again a hissing of the whip. This time like previously, followed by a crack, but with the screams of the slave. The first lash went across her upper torsos left side, just above her breasts. She screamed cursed, threw her head back and tried to keep control over her body. This caused her pushing her swaying boobs out, an excellent position to receive the next hit amazingly perfect under the first one. That one directly above her left nipple. The executioner worked his way down to the shin, hitting the condemned girl exactly then times on the left side of her body. He then stepped over, and did the same to her right side.
Daniela was by now breathing heavy, but still concious. The front of her body showed a perfect pattern of cracked skin, with blood running down her body, dripping into the sand. Merging there with her male friends blood and body fluids.

The executioner turned around to the audience theatrically and encouraged the people to applaud, he then stepped behind his victim, asking her if she still thought he was an asshole.
Dena knew what would happen if she'd say "yes". He'd pull out a Flagrum. A horrible whip, designed to literally cut the victim into pieces. Nevertheless, she knew, sometimes he'd pull it out anyway.
But the by now pale slave couldn't reply at all anymore. Shock, bloodloss, pain, shame left the rebellious girl quiet since a while already. The executioner was laughing anew and the growing crowd cheered.

Thus the whip newly hissed through the air and was cutting into Danielas right shoulder. Ten lashes to the right side from the rear. Down the back, the buttocks, back of the thighs and calves. By now the girl was not even screaming anymore. She was more or less just hanging on the stake, as the executioner started to finish his work with the whipping of the left side of her back. When he got done she completely broke down, was untied, and dragged to the side.
Meanwhile the two criminals were guarded to the center of the atrium, a good chance given to them, to watch and to get an impression. Dena saw the horror in the faces of the two, and smiled again.
"Very well done" she thought, while the executioner wiped the sweat off his face.

The guards dumped a few buckets of cold water onto the flogged slave Daniela, to have her conscious again. Then they told her to get dressed with her torn clothes. She managed to wrap a rope around her waist and looped the loincloth through it front and back, enough to cover her sex and butt. As soon as she was done with the tunic, they loaded that Patibulum onto her back and tied her arms to it. The appearance of the whipped slave was by now more than sorry. Dressed in bloody rags, covered with sweat, dirt and blood she walked barefooted out of the atrium, once more causing loud laughter amongst the crowd.
Dena decided to walk with her, to check out how she was going to be crucified.......

This is a great manip from Madiosi, documenting the situation during and after the flogging. It's giving us an idea of what was going on when the condemned were "prepared" for their crucifixion.
Thanks a lot. Awesome.

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Dena kept watching the work of her colleagues

The executioners pushed the scared and humiliated slave towards her already assembled and erected cross, leaving her just the loincloth on, while she still covered her nipples carefully with her fingertips. Contemporaneously a guard has been leaning a ladder to the left side of the Patibulum, next to the Stipes. Then Daniela was forced to turn around, facing the crowd with the back to the cross.
Everybody could now see how the girl flushed, obviously feeling very ashamed. The executioners and guards didn't care. They told her to step up the ladder two rungs. She had to take downd her hands to hold herself, and thus exposed her breasts fully to the attenders.

The guards had to support her now, while she stood on the ladder. Two executioners managed to pull her arms left and right over the patibulum. She looking up, shouting at the spectators, asking them if that is what they all came for. Some in the crowd replied and yelled back that she shouldn't complain, and that she gets lots of attention considering that she was a slave.
That got her flushing even more, this time due to her anger.

One of the executioners took a rope and tied her arms violently to the Stipes, ignoring her screaming, to then proceeded with her feet. As soon as the legs were fastened to the Stipes, her executioner nailed a small board underneath Danielas left heel. Dena knew that he wanted her to have the chance to push up to breathe. For support the small board was more than sarcastic, but that's what a crucifixion also is, Dena thought.
Then the two criminals, Cire and Andrea, arrived at the Sessorium and with them a lot of spectators that had accompanied the two condemned wrongdoers on their march. The people started shoving for a good view, and while the Titulus of the just crucified slave was attached, she yelled at the incoming criminals.

Dena was not too tall, so she was urged to push some people a little to the side, asking one of the guards if she could stand with them to monitor the work of the executioners. Being recognized immediately, she was welcomed to remain amongst the condemned, torturers and guards.
She decided to move over to the just crucified female slave, to stand right aside the writhing, cursing victim. It was hard for Dena to keep from laughing, since the female crucified had already managed to almost tear her loincloth off, totally ignoring her own fatal situation.

The whole scenery appeared more than surrealistic to Dena. The crucified woman screaming in anger, her two slave friends just hanging and moving silently, and the criminals standing there in rags with the crossbeams. Dena was able to take a glance from the side, and saw that the crucified female had her back torn up by the raw wood of the stipes. She could see how the ropes started to cut into the slaves wrists and calves, and how the crucified tried to support herself on the little board beneath her left heel, while the right foot was tied on top. Groaning and heavily breathing the crucified tried to find a comfortable position. Not possible, the female executioner thought smiling, then took the chance to ask the crucified woman:

"How do you feel when you are hanging almost complitely naked in front of the crowd? Isn't that actually shocking for you? All these people are watching you."

The victims answer:

"At first I felt so ashamed and had no idea if I could bear the situation I'm in, but now I'm adapting to it. At least they have left me the loincloth on. To be completely naked would be even worse. Never have I thought about anything like this, it's so very degrading. The pain in my arms, legs and wrists is tremendous. But still I feel the urge to watch what the executioners are going to do to the criminals. They deserve to be crucified and I want the people to know that. They gave me plenty of the drink, and I'm feeling kind of dizzy already. Why are you asking, and why are you allowed to stand around here while they crucify us?"

Denas reply:

"I'm a new executioner and checking out how my colleagues handle a larger group of victims, since there will be two more executions tomorrow, that I will be responsible for. I don't like people, nor do I have a problem to hurt them. I'm curiously looking forward, slave."

Wordless both turned their eyes again towards the two criminals in front of them.

Dena assumed, that if she'd be still standing in the crowd, she probably couldn't see that much and was more than pleased with her privileges. Turning to the right she was eventually able to look the crucified woman straight into the eyes, the crowd by now blocking the sight of the people that tried to watch from a distance. Dena was amazed by the fact, that at the actual crucifixion site, everything was so close. She was standing opposite to a Stipes not even three meters away from her, and another one laying on the ground.

"Take the crossbeams off of their backs" a guard shouted........

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Here a nice drawing "Arms behind the Patibulum" posted by Phlebas
 
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CIRES CRUCIFIXION OUT OF DENAS EYE VIEW

"Take the crossbeams off of their backs" a guard shouted.

The ropes that held the hands of the two criminals tied to their crossbeams were taken away, both logs carelessly dropped to the ground by the henchmen. Dena felt the exitement rising, anticipation of the inevitable choking her.

The Centurion in command charged: "Let's take the man first".

It became really busy at the execution site. One of the guards kept holding Andrea at the arm, while two other men took her crossbeam and started to assemble that cross on the ground. Cires crossbeam though, was moved a bit in front of the leftover dug in upright, opposite to Denas position.

All the guards, soldiers and executioners were obviously in a very good mood, as Cires clothes got torn off. Immediately he covered his sex with his hands, and was pushed forward towards the crossbeam. Two man grabbed and spread his arms violently, laid him down onto the wood with his shoulders, and held his wrists firmly in their final position. The dust of the ground sticked to wounds and glistening skin of the victim, creating an obscure, abstract artwork. The centurion then took his spear, and marked a spot on each wrist, where he wanted the nails to be placed.

"Crucify, crucify, crucify" chanted the mob. Dena recognized that Andrea was able to watch very close, what was done to her partner in crime. While he was laying helplessly on the ground, his eyes followed the centurion. All the people on Denas side, the already crucified, some guards and Andrea could spot his dangling penis and testicles. These folks, as lots of people in the crowd, were laughing and chanting. Just Andrea was standing there in silence, it seemed.
A third guard sat down on Cires knees, hence all that the condemned was able to move, was his head. He raised it to catch a glance, the shoulder-length black hair sticking to his sweaty, bloodstained, dirty face. Eyes widened with fear, his whole body trembling, as the executioner kneeled down in front of his left wrist to place the nail into the mark.

The executioner spoke to the guard who was sitting on Cires knees: "Watch out, I hope you guys haven't been giving the condemned too much to drink prior to the crucifixion."
The guard laughing: "A good aspect, let me move back a little, even though these criminals didn't get that much to drink yet."

Spectators that were able to follow this conversation, cheered with pleasure. Daniela who was hanging on her cross to Denas right, did the same. The two male slaves though watched, like the waiting Andrea, with horror.

The executioner reassured himself once again, glanced over to Cire, then focused the nailhead and drove the nail, with a few good blows of the hammer, through the wrist into the wood. While Cire was still gasping for air, the executioner stepped over to the right side, placed the second nail, drove it in without giving the grunting, screaming condemned any time to wonder.

"Haven't I told you" the guard in charge of the legs said laughing, "he leaked just a little bit, actually nothing to mention".
Then directed to Cire:
"We will lift you up now. As soon as the crossbeam is attached, I will put your feet on the footrest. You can then stand straight, and I will tell you how we'll proceed with your execution. Is that understood?"

Cire on the ground aswering heavily breathing:
"I think I know what you are talking about."

At this state of the execution every word of the guards and the executioner could be heard by Dena. There was total silence at the scene, but the heavy breathing of Cire and some statements from Daniela.
Three men liftet the criminal up, one on each side of the crossbeam, one by the legs, and attached the crossbeam with the helpless, naked condemned to the upright and fixed a footrest. Like explained, the man responsible for the legs landed Cires feet on it.
From behind the cross the centurion approached, to hold the victims head. Thus Cire couldn't bang his head to the wood and eventually faint.
Dena moved over some for a better view, well able to see that Cire was now standing on the footrest with locked knees to release his wrists. The feet a few unspectacular inches off the ground.

The guard who took care of the legs spoke amused to Cire:
"We'll place your right foot on top of your left, press your bottom heel against the stipes, and then nail your feet. Keeping you in place is still much easier for all of us, when you don't resist. Not bad if you'd watch what we do. We appreciate every hand. By the way, don't goof around, otherwise we will crucify you". That comment alone caused hilarious laughter at the site.


One from behind, one from the right side, the guards fiercely rested Cires right foot on his left, while the executioner kneeled down for his work, pulling out an awkwardly looking spike. He placed it on the ankle underneath the shin of the top foot. Dena realized that he wanted the spike to come out of the heels, thus to go from the bottom one into the stipes. She thought it was a great idea, knowing that the criminal was going to look more than stupid at the end. She had to admit that she was admiring the craftsmanship of the executioner.

"What are they doing?" the crucified female slave Daniela asked Dena.
"They want to fix his feet with just one long spike. The idea is to drive it from the top diagonal through his ankles. It is supposed to come out of the heels. He will have to push himself up with one foot on the footrest, kinda what you do. Shall he need more support, he can choose to step onto the nail with the top foot, too. He is given the option where the pain will be building up." Dena replied.

Daniela again:
"I see what you mean. I try to stand on my heel, too. Then I'm able to breath and talk. I can push myself up only for a short time. After a while my heel is hurting so bad, that I have to let myself sink down again. There is nothing I can do. But as soon as I'm hanging down, it seems that I can't get enough air, the ropes dig in deeper into my flesh and my upper body hurts cruelly. Looking at my body, my tits go up and down, though I still lack air. Another question, the criminal, can't he free himself from the nail?"

Dena answered laughing:
"That is not possible, the spike is very long. He might be able to move the top foot up a bit, but there is no way to get it over the nailhead. He will be glad to have his feet as far down as possible to push up. You will see. Even when he is moving a lot, which I think he will, he can't free himself. Thanks to the body movement the nails will enlargen the holes to provide a little play, but the ankles and wrists are strong enough to hold it. Concerning your execution girl, you will only have the energy to push up for a certain time. When you hang down you can't breathe properly." Daniela turned her head away from Dena, outstretched her body anew, to keep up with what was going on in front of her.

By the first moderate blow the nail went in some, two more and the nail was hitting the wood of the stipes above the footrest. The executioner gave the nail a few more stronger blows, until it was secured well in the wood. He left the nail sticking out a couple of inches of the top foot. Unlike the firm nailing of the wrists, the delinquents feet appeared to be sort of "pinned". During the nailing of his feet, the "executed" let out a horrifying scream, even shocking and thrilling insensitive spectators. The execution team was used to it, Dena being aware that she'd be soon part of such an orgy of violence as well. The crucified Daniela still bitched with dedication.

Since the crossbeam was attached, the centurion was holding Cires head away from the wood. Did the condemned open his eyes, he saw the men working on his body. Dena felt that she wanted to know what it's like to hang there. It came to her mind, that the perspective of the victim must be unrivaled. She shuddered as she tried to imagine, what she'd feel, if she'd be treated like that condemned.

There was a peg mounted beneath the crotch of the criminal, the guards and the centurion released the screaming man. He used his newly gained freedom, to let himself sink down with caution onto the peg. It stood out some, and looked like a second penis to the smiling Dena.......

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Super manips of Phlebas for the issue. Phlebas and M. S. are right there with these perfect illustrations.
 
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Andymans work is very emotional and expresses the several stages of a crucifixion. Here two drawings from him, giving us an impression concerning the communication between the crucified and the spectators. Writing about it is one thing, but when you can really see it, it's amazing. Thank you very much for your sketches Andyman.......

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It makes me wonder what Dena, the female executioner is feeling, while she is watching her colleagues taking care of their business.
I think I will ask her......

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If I was forced to carry the crossbeam after the flogging, here is how I'd probably react:

Hopefully I'd be allowed to put my clothes back on, before the patibulum is placed on my shoulders and my arms are tied to it.
The weight would force me to look down and the wood would tear up my back even more, causing tremendous pain.
I'd still be in the state of shock from the scourging, my hole body trembling, encouraging the spectators to laugh at me, to make jokes concerning the dirty rags I wear and how I look.

The guards then would tie a rope around my waist and may push and pull me to start walking.
I'd watch my steps. Just looking down and most likely ignoring the screaming mob. By now I'd understand fully that when I fall down or act fractious, I'd just suffer more.
Maybe after some time after I had started the walk, I'd look up and reply to some comments of the mob. But all in all, I'd do everything I could to get to the execution site.......

It's really hard to think about how I'd feel. Abandoned for sure. What is it like when you are just doing your best to get to the execution site with the patibulum on your shoulders?
Giving all the power that you have left in your body to help your torturers must be the absolute horror, what an experience:firedevil:!!!

This is so individual, but so very exciting.

I think the most you might be able to get is a loincloth or rag around your waist.
 
I think the most you might be able to get is a loincloth or rag around your waist.
That was most likely up to the executioners, I think. If they allowed the condemned to dress again or not after the flogging, could have been an individual order, for whatever reason. Very interesting to get various opinions. Actually a question to everybody here:

If you'd be in charge of the executions, how would you like send the condemned to the march, and why? If you'd have the power, what would you like to see. Don't be scared to be honest, give us an idea from the darkness of your soul. Enjoy.
 
how would you like send the condemned to the march, and why?

Male or female, some sort of rag, soiled, stinking. It gives them a little hope, and protects the executioners from bodily emissions.

With the threat of a naked march, can accept a bribe from the relatives who want as much dignity as possible, in which case rag could be clean.

With the promise of nakedness to come, ensures a good crowd for the killing field, more vendors, better percentage of the takings.

The Romans taught us all we need to know about capitalism.
 
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