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Well, Darkprincess69, if I may, I would like to talk about this topic in greater detail, but since I'm composing this on a tablet, I'll need to be brief. Are your negative feelings limited to changing existing works to suit current sensibilities, or do you disdain new works too? I hadn't heard about Amazon turning Gandalf into a woman, but I agree with you on that one.

No, it's the "current sensibilities" that piss me off because they're just SO fucking stupid. It's all part of a pervasive extreme leftist ideology that is spreading like a cancer through society, mostly propagated by raving lunatics in Californian colleges and pathetic millennials on bloody twitter. As a woman, I have long desired to be properly represented and respected. We have achieved that long ago. I want equality, not superiority, and I sure as hell don't want to be lectured on how to think by a bunch of overpaid Hollywood elites who spend most of their off-screen lives snorting coke, and then criticised by a tribe of twitter retards less than half my age just because I don't share their idiotic opinions. They're just overgrown toddlers who haven't been around long enough to properly learn how life really works. Twitter is not real life. Those idiots really need to put their bloody phones down and go outside for a bit...

However, I have have been working on a Heroic Fantasy saga about characters battling a regime that enslaves women. ALL women. It's sort of "Conan the Barbarian meets The Handmaid's Tale." My central theme involves coercion, abuse, and bad guys who want everybody put into "boxes" from which there's no escape. And those who fight them are treated in ways most foul.

This is a theme that is very important to me. Like many artists and writers, I am someone who has always felt "apart" and "different," who never quite for in wherever I went.
All art reflects something of the artist. This is perfectly fine. My objection comes when it is forced upon others at which point it ceases to be art and becomes propaganda. This is no different to religion - my attitude is that I'm happy for everybody to believe whatever they want - just don't ram it down my throat. My words to all religious types is "Don't try to convert me, because you will fail VERY HARD". This applies to all forms of propaganda, of which religion is just one, and this obscene toxic wokeness that's destroyed entertainment since 2016 is another.

Is there no place in art for social commentary, in your view? I would hate to lump authors like Jonathan Swift or Harriet Beecher Stowe into the "unacceptable" category. Or are you only annoyed because you disagree with what the artists are trying to say?
Of course there is a place for social commentary in art. What I so strongly despise is the torrent of blind hatred that is hurled by some artists towards those that don't agree with their views. On the whole, I would prefer to keep this stuff out of entertainment and frankly it is a VERY poor business decision to alienate a large proportion of your audience just because you want to indoctrinate them with your political views. I like MY entertainment to be escapist. We all know that the world is going to hell because those running it are clueless morons, but when I watch a movie or a tv show I want to be taken away from that for a while, not have even more of the crap shoved down my throat - I want escapism, not current-year commentary.

And the other thing of course by trying to make everything "relevant" is that when you go back to watch it in, say, ten years time, it's going to look horribly dated and irrelevant.

Is my theme one you find unacceptable? Because as a writer trying to sell this saga to the public, I have kind of a vested interest in people's opinions, and I'm having some trouble breaking into markets. So while I'm not seeking your imprimatur, I am open to discussion, with you or anybody else here, just as I am with any other potential readers. I know not everyone is going to like my work, but any constructive discussion is welcome.

Firstly I don't believe that I have said that anything you are doing or saying is unacceptable. I would always encourage everybody to create the works that they want to - that is the very essence of what art is all about, and if you have things you want to comment on, then go ahead - that's perfectly fine, but think very carefully if you want to try to change the world with it, because this will ALWAYS result in a very ugly backlash. Don't try to alter peoples' opinions - just say what you want to say and let the audience make their own decisions, and whatever you do, don't insult or name-call those who don't share your own opinions, because that is what is curently destroying entertainment these days.

And as for going back and changing stuff from existing material, I'm dead against that. I hate any form of retconning. How would it be if somebody went back and started rewriting Shakespeare? Or what about retconning Greek and Roman mythology?

Entertainment franchises are modern-day mythologies, and once they have become established within popular culture, you should NOT go back and change things. The biggest problem that Hollywood faces today is just laziness. Rather than create anything new and original, they blatantly rip off other (better) peoples' work and ruin it completely. There are so few good writers left and most of those are just radical idealogues. Also, most tv and movie scripts these days are written by committee - and holy crap it REALLY shows :(
 
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No, it's the "current sensibilities" that piss me off because they're just SO fucking stupid. It's all part of a pervasive extreme leftist ideology that is spreading like a cancer through society, mostly propagated by raving lunatics in Californian colleges and pathetic millennials on bloody twitter. As a woman, I have long desired to be properly represented and respected. We have achieved that long ago. I want equality, not superiority, and I sure as hell don't want to be lectured on how to think by a bunch of overpaid Hollywood elites who spend most of their off-screen lives snorting coke, and then criticised by a tribe of twitter retards less than half my age just because I don't share their idiotic opinions. They're just overgrown toddlers who haven't been around long enough to properly learn how life really works. Twitter is not real life. Those idiots really need to put their bloody phones down and go outside for a bit...


All art reflects something of the artist. This is perfectly fine. My objection comes when it is forced upon others at which point it ceases to be art and becomes propaganda. This is no different to religion - my attitude is that I'm happy for everybody to believe whatever they want - just don't ram it down my throat. My words to all religious types is "Don't try to convert me, because you will fail VERY HARD". This applies to all forms of propaganda, of which religion is just one, and this obscene toxic wokeness that's destroyed entertainment since 2016 is another.


Of course there is a place for social commentary in art. What I so strongly despise is the torrent of blind hatred that is hurled by some artists towards those that don't agree with their views. On the whole, I would prefer to keep this stuff out of entertainment and frankly it is a VERY poor business decision to alienate a large proportion of your audience just because you want to indoctrinate them with your political views. I like MY entertainment to be escapist. We all know that the world is going to hell because those running it are clueless morons, but when I watch a movie or a tv show I want to be taken away from that for a while, not have even more of the crap shoved down my throat - I want escapism, not current-year commentary.

And the other thing of course by trying to make everything "relevant" is that when you go back to watch it in, say, ten years time, it's going to look horribly dated and irrelevant.



Firstly I don't believe that I have said that anything you are doing or saying is unacceptable. I would always encourage everybody to create the works that they want to - that is the very essence of what art is all about, and if you have things you want to comment on, then go ahead - that's perfectly fine, but think very carefully if you want to try to change the world with it, because this will ALWAYS result in a very ugly backlash. Don't try to alter peoples' opinions - just say what you want to say and let the audience make their own decisions, and whatever you do, don't insult or name-call those who don't share your own opinions, because that is what is curently destroying entertainment these days.

And as for going back and changing stuff from existing material, I'm dead against that. I hate any form of retconning. How would it be if somebody went back and started rewriting Shakespeare? Or what about retconning Greek and Roman mythology?

Entertainment franchises are modern-day mythologies, and once they have become established within popular culture, you should NOT go back and change things. The biggest problem that Hollywood faces today is just laziness. Rather than create anything new and original, they blatantly rip off other (better) peoples' work and ruin it completely. There are so few good writers left and most of those are just radical idealogues. Also, most tv and movie scripts these days are written by committee - and holy crap it REALLY shows :(
WHEW! Princess, we agree more than we disagree! Thanks for your thoughtful (as usual) comments!
 
Don't worry about it - threads often get a bit sidetracked and go off into semi-lengthy digressions. It doesn't happen very often, but it's really nice to know that there's still at least one place left on the internet where people can discuss matters that are important to them in relatively calm and mature discourse without resorting to insulting each other like a bunch of playground bullies...
 
1) WOW! I believe I was the first to mention Margot Robbie in the role of Harley Quinn, because of NFTW's use of the character in a new series, and look at what it started!
I love it! Not because I'm a rabble rouser but because of of the excellent thoughts, opinions, and posts that resulted. I don't mind that it's "off topic" at all because the general intellectual level of people on this forum is so high. :eek: :) So, as a personal opinion, please continue. Of course I look for your contributions FIRST NFTW! :very_hot:

2) Agreed completely with NFTW's assessment of Harley Quinn in the first Suicide Squad and was disappointed to learn of any dilution in sequels. She was immensely complex, powerful, and vulnerable. She was everything that makes women the gloriously attractive, stimulating, interesting creatures they are. Agree with just about everything DarkPrincess has to say. I believe he NAILS it! Just me.

3) NFTW, have you considered Patreon? I'm pledged to several artists (Battlestrength is a great example) and won't be able to afford Three Moons as easily as before. I mention it because I don't want to pay for extraneous stuff and I believe yours is so objectively superior to much of the other material available. As is that of Basttlestrength. :)
I'd hate to be a 3D artist trying to get compensated for her/his art. Piracy is the rule and it seems to be a matter of personal honor and fairness if you're willing to pay an artist for their work. I know one site where there is a free LIBRARY of your older work NFTW!

4) Agree with all of the criticisms of Quoom, but he is still a genius. Of course I access my NFTW folder much more frequently than the Quoom folder and that fact is simply a reflection of the frustrations regarding his work. So it does make itself apparent commercially over time.

Peace to all at this time of year especially, but the rest of the year too. ;)
 
Ah rats! I've been hijacked! LOL.

BTW, here's a nice idea for a new story: your avatar is being kidnapped by several girls that were tortured in previous comics and that are now demanding better employment conditions.
 
Just to make things clear: the avatar doesn't get tortured, the girls are when the hostage relief team arrives.
:)
 
1) WOW! I believe I was the first to mention Margot Robbie in the role of Harley Quinn, because of NFTW's use of the character in a new series, and look at what it started!
I love it! Not because I'm a rabble rouser but because of of the excellent thoughts, opinions, and posts that resulted. I don't mind that it's "off topic" at all because the general intellectual level of people on this forum is so high. :eek: :) So, as a personal opinion, please continue. Of course I look for your contributions FIRST NFTW! :very_hot:

2) Agreed completely with NFTW's assessment of Harley Quinn in the first Suicide Squad and was disappointed to learn of any dilution in sequels. She was immensely complex, powerful, and vulnerable. She was everything that makes women the gloriously attractive, stimulating, interesting creatures they are. Agree with just about everything DarkPrincess has to say. I believe he NAILS it! Just me.

3) NFTW, have you considered Patreon? I'm pledged to several artists (Battlestrength is a great example) and won't be able to afford Three Moons as easily as before. I mention it because I don't want to pay for extraneous stuff and I believe yours is so objectively superior to much of the other material available. As is that of Basttlestrength. :)
I'd hate to be a 3D artist trying to get compensated for her/his art. Piracy is the rule and it seems to be a matter of personal honor and fairness if you're willing to pay an artist for their work. I know one site where there is a free LIBRARY of your older work NFTW!

4) Agree with all of the criticisms of Quoom, but he is still a genius. Of course I access my NFTW folder much more frequently than the Quoom folder and that fact is simply a reflection of the frustrations regarding his work. So it does make itself apparent commercially over time.

Peace to all at this time of year especially, but the rest of the year too. ;)
I will have to look into Patreon. I know I need to do something different because I get hits on my current website, but very few subscribers. I realize Three Moons is a nightmare for people and most of the time I'm the only updater. Sometimes I think of abandoning it entirely and going a different direction. Any alternative suggestions would be appreciated. I am currently in the middle of two commissions and I enjoy doing them a lot (Thanks I00876 for working with me on a great comic a couple years ago!!!) but because of my busy schedule the process is slow. I render for fun on the side of my normal life, and completing a comic is a lot of work, and it costs money. It would be great to get a little back in return, and if Patreon would help with that, I'm interested.

Thanks for the suggestion

I have seen my older work on various sites as well, but it appears most of it is from free posts I've done on sites like ehentai (BTW ehentai subscribers seem to HATE my work!) I don't post much there anymore, I prefer this site because all you guys appreciate my comics.
 
I will have to look into Patreon. I know I need to do something different because I get hits on my current website, but very few subscribers. I realize Three Moons is a nightmare for people and most of the time I'm the only updater. Sometimes I think of abandoning it entirely and going a different direction. Any alternative suggestions would be appreciated. I am currently in the middle of two commissions and I enjoy doing them a lot (Thanks I00876 for working with me on a great comic a couple years ago!!!) but because of my busy schedule the process is slow. I render for fun on the side of my normal life, and completing a comic is a lot of work, and it costs money. It would be great to get a little back in return, and if Patreon would help with that, I'm interested.

Thanks for the suggestion

I have seen my older work on various sites as well, but it appears most of it is from free posts I've done on sites like ehentai (BTW ehentai subscribers seem to HATE my work!) I don't post much there anymore, I prefer this site because all you guys appreciate my comics.

You are very much welcome, you have a great art and we should support you.
But it seems that Patreon has problem with this kind of art. I know about Pixiv that keeps more open head and there is pixiv fanbox that some artists use.
BTW, I very much hope that your commissions will appear on your site eventually.
 
I will have to look into Patreon. I know I need to do something different because I get hits on my current website, but very few subscribers. I realize Three Moons is a nightmare for people and most of the time I'm the only updater. Sometimes I think of abandoning it entirely and going a different direction. Any alternative suggestions would be appreciated.
Skating Jesus seems to be doing well selling his work on renderotica.
 
You are very much welcome, you have a great art and we should support you.
But it seems that Patreon has problem with this kind of art. I know about Pixiv that keeps more open head and there is pixiv fanbox that some artists use.
BTW, I very much hope that your commissions will appear on your site eventually.
Patreon has become pretty much unusable for any kind of adult content these days. There appears to be an ugly form of puritanism on the rise among American tech companies and those that orbit them :(
 
While I'm aware the censorship noose is tightening I had no idea Patreon was also involved in this process. Some content there is pretty rad but can be blocked from public view unless a subscription is paid. So the problem is not obvious to me but may be when you start dealing with them.

Renderotica is a possibility, as is "dofantasy," the entity that handles all of Damian's stuff. There is no discernible censorship there and it has very high quality "Artist Sites" with "comics" available for sale on an individual basis. Of course a comic IS alot of work, but once it is finished you just put it up for sale. You have quite the well deserved reputation among us "connoisseurs and cognoscenti," so I feel certain they would accept you.
(Just after I wrote no censorship, I remember Damian was forced to switch from nails to rope. That's where he lost me!)

E-hentai IS the the site I was referring to as long as you mentioned it but at least most of your posted material has a reference to your websites. That's a perfect example of the type of piracy 3D artists have to deal with. Someone can buy one of your comics and then resell it as they please. Scummy, but I don't see any way of dealing with it unless a virus/malware could be activated if a thief tried to copy it . Check with the Cyber Command at the Pentagon, but don't reveal the "sensitive" nature of your work. :eek: ;)

As a last resort you can simply do what Quoom does. I'm sure it's not his day job but he at least has control and makes enough to keep him at it. And, as has been pointed out, he somehow manages to keep his work off the net. How he manages this I'm not sure. A crux/impalement squad?

Any way, hate to see you have problems of this nature NFTW. You've always been very generous with your work but I agree there are people who ARE willing to pay for it.

Best regards!
 
I will have to look into Patreon. I know I need to do something different because I get hits on my current website, but very few subscribers. I realize Three Moons is a nightmare for people and most of the time I'm the only updater. Sometimes I think of abandoning it entirely and going a different direction. Any alternative suggestions would be appreciated. I am currently in the middle of two commissions and I enjoy doing them a lot (Thanks I00876 for working with me on a great comic a couple years ago!!!) but because of my busy schedule the process is slow. I render for fun on the side of my normal life, and completing a comic is a lot of work, and it costs money. It would be great to get a little back in return, and if Patreon would help with that, I'm interested.

Thanks for the suggestion

I have seen my older work on various sites as well, but it appears most of it is from free posts I've done on sites like ehentai (BTW ehentai subscribers seem to HATE my work!) I don't post much there anymore, I prefer this site because all you guys appreciate my comics.
Hey, I first saw your work on e-hentai and loved it. Still do, of course, because you've got a great 'no limits' attitude. I also happen to love female torturers. Once I work out how to deal with your website, I'll happily subscribe to your work!
 
I will have to look into Patreon. I know I need to do something different because I get hits on my current website, but very few subscribers. I realize Three Moons is a nightmare for people and most of the time I'm the only updater. Sometimes I think of abandoning it entirely and going a different direction. Any alternative suggestions would be appreciated. I am currently in the middle of two commissions and I enjoy doing them a lot (Thanks I00876 for working with me on a great comic a couple years ago!!!) but because of my busy schedule the process is slow. I render for fun on the side of my normal life, and completing a comic is a lot of work, and it costs money. It would be great to get a little back in return, and if Patreon would help with that, I'm interested.

Thanks for the suggestion

I have seen my older work on various sites as well, but it appears most of it is from free posts I've done on sites like ehentai (BTW ehentai subscribers seem to HATE my work!) I don't post much there anymore, I prefer this site because all you guys appreciate my comics.

I'm a fan of your work and subscribed to three moons. I must agree that the site is antiquated, viewing comics is a chore, and there is no option to download. Can I be provided with a MEGA folder or the like for download if I provide proof that I'm a subscriber?

I would also recommend Pixiv Fanbox because Patreon has banned a number of artists who use similar themes, and renderotica is less user-friendly than Pixiv.
 
Hello. I am new in this Forum. Nftw i like you Work very mutch. I never see so great Pics.
Sorry Form my English I am from Germany.
 
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