I live in the Philippines. Every year we celebrate the holy week which comemorate Jesus crucifixion, death and resurrection. Catholic use to celebrate this around the world. I'm quite sure we have different ways of celebrating the holy week but there is a deeper sense on why you must see how we celebrate it here. Some religious people think that they will be forgiven from their since if they hurt themselves during holy week. You might not believe this but every year some devoted believers have themselves crucified. Yes and they don't use ropes, they use nails. Of coarse it will only last for hours maybe 1 or 2 and it wont kill them. Enough talking... here's the link in youtube. Every year you can see it live in my country. Some tourist used to visit here every year just to see this guys. Check the Link... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VkxEyMORiyI&playnext=1&list=PLB28C494DF7570E99
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Real Nails
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Yes I have seen the clip...I can relate!
Naraku
Draconarius
I've seen this sort of thing before. It is a fascinating phenomenon.
Self infliction of pain & even self mutilation as an act of religious devotion seems to have been part of human nature throughout history. I think there is a connection between the experience of religious ecstasy & the release of endorphins caused by physical injuries. There are cultures where devotees will pierce their bodies with steel rods. They reportedly don't experience pain & some even have a euphoric sensation. I believe the same thing happened with the flagellants of the middle ages. This may also explain the way that some Christian martyrs are reported to have endured tortures & painful deaths willingly & without any outward expression of agony. It's not divine assistance, but a natural part of human biology. Humans are pretty amazing creatures.
Self infliction of pain & even self mutilation as an act of religious devotion seems to have been part of human nature throughout history. I think there is a connection between the experience of religious ecstasy & the release of endorphins caused by physical injuries. There are cultures where devotees will pierce their bodies with steel rods. They reportedly don't experience pain & some even have a euphoric sensation. I believe the same thing happened with the flagellants of the middle ages. This may also explain the way that some Christian martyrs are reported to have endured tortures & painful deaths willingly & without any outward expression of agony. It's not divine assistance, but a natural part of human biology. Humans are pretty amazing creatures.
I never really understood self mutilation...untill now!Thanks!
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allan2012
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...nos-re-enact-crucifixion-with-real-nails.html
I saw several videos on the subject, I put a link here. Strangely it is always men who are crucified, never women. we should organize a pilgrimage with female volunteers to encourage vocations. who would starting lineup?
no volunteer here?
I saw several videos on the subject, I put a link here. Strangely it is always men who are crucified, never women. we should organize a pilgrimage with female volunteers to encourage vocations. who would starting lineup?
no volunteer here?
john rambo
Magistrate
Masochism combined faith and extremism ...
The church of Rome does not approve but leaves them free to do ...
Kiduttaja
Consul
sometimes also women. I remember a few years ago a girl in prison decided to do.
Kiduttaja
Consul
back to the subject of women being crucified during holy week in the Philippines: I found some pictures of the girl i mentioned.
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Kiduttaja
Consul
fake nails are not the same. Also 3D rendering and manipulations, so common in the site, are not. I like pictures from Philippines because it is real... real nails, real pain, real suffering...
Kiduttaja
Consul
and regarding the question of "only boys" playing Jesus, well, also in the Philippines it was like that. The girl in the pictures was the first, if I well remember. It was in the news because of this. She was in jail for some crime and decided to ask to be crucified part as a protest and maybe to pay her fault... not really clear. But now a few women decided to follow the example. I found something if you like...
crumera
Crucifier of Pixels
Yeah the nails are real, but there isn't any weight on them..
They just stand there, not hanging there on the nails.
Sure the nails will hurt, but reality of a roman crucifixion is quite different in the amount of pain and suffering.
Kiduttaja
Consul
roman crucifixion was supposed to cause the death of the crucified...
I'm afraid it would be considered homicide even in the Philippines and nowadays "reality of a roman crucifixion" cannot be "real" unless you want to go to jail.
I like the Filipino holy week because is really-real!
By the way, even standing somebody is collapsing and needs medical assistance every year.
Kiduttaja
Consul
and regarding the question of "standing" against "hanging on the nails"...
Also in roman style it was not hanging on two nails in the wrist (or even hands!).
Feet were also nailed to support the body weight. Sometimes even a "sedulum" was used.
There is archaeological evidence of feet nailed at the side of the vertical beam, as in the picture, but in many christian depictions a pedestal is shown.
Considering that at the time of early christian depictions, romans were still crucifying...
well, maybe the big difference is that the romans were leaving the condemned on the cross for hours and even days and not for a quarter of an hour!
Also in roman style it was not hanging on two nails in the wrist (or even hands!).
Feet were also nailed to support the body weight. Sometimes even a "sedulum" was used.
There is archaeological evidence of feet nailed at the side of the vertical beam, as in the picture, but in many christian depictions a pedestal is shown.
Considering that at the time of early christian depictions, romans were still crucifying...
well, maybe the big difference is that the romans were leaving the condemned on the cross for hours and even days and not for a quarter of an hour!
