Gnashing Of Teeth.

jedakk said:

I'll eventually post a Version 2 that will be a bit more detailed in places and will have updated pictures. The technology just keeps getting better and I get more skilled at using it to capture my imagination.

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And as always, gee, am I glad.

jedakk said:

I do, but I'm not sure they all fit with the theme of this thread.

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Jedakk, I don't mind in the least. You've whetted Naildance's appetite, given everybody a link to a mother lode of your stuff, and I'm hard pressed to have a problem with that.

One of the more limbic system zapping finds upon my return from haitus has been this, one of Balbus' assistants finally copping a feel. In the story the carnifex muses that Sabina 'would be a strong fuck,' and regrets her mistress wouldn't simply sell her. But I can't see any impediment to him and his men having their way with her. Did I forget Julia Lepida had a 'no rape' clause in the crucifixion contract?

No matter. This render is also off topic. But I'm thinking of starting another thread I was going to call "On the Recurrence of Sexual Themes in Roman Crucifixion Art and Literature," until I shook my head and got a grip.

"Crux Sex Assault" or some such. This one will be an entry.

jedakk said:

I thought about creating some blooper scenes for The Serpent's Eye and putting those after the end. One project at a time though.

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I can see it. Balbus positions the first nail against Sabina's wrist, raises his mallet, brings it down with a mighty blow . . . and it's a trick nail, made of rubber!

And a good laugh is had all around.

Of course the next caress Sabina will feel on that breast will be by the tails of that whip.

There are other scenes I've been working on where Sabina's breasts get felt up. You see it in this sequence where they are nailing her right wrist, and Ajax's hand on her breast is the last thing on Sabina's mind.

In this scene, Hercules is handing over Sabina's right arm which he has been holding to Ajax. Ajax is shifting his right hand to take a hold on Sabina's breast. This whole scene is kind of a minor detail, but if you're in the crowd watching, you'd notice the preparation going on, how the crucifixion crew moves around as they finish one step in the process and begin another.

In this picture, Antius is poised to take his place, once Hercules moves out of the way. He has his hammer and nail ready to nail Sabina's right wrist in place. Note that I have changed Ajax's position for holding Sabina down; before, her legs were between his, now his legs are between hers and she's obscenely exposed to the gaze of the onlookers.



In this one you can see Ajax's hand on Sabina's breast. She's still staring in fascination at the nail they have just driven through her left wrist.



In this one, Antius probes Sabina's wrist to find the spot where he will place the point of the nail. Ajax has shifted his grip on her breast to better hold her once the nailing starts. Notice that her nipple protrudes between his fingers.



A close-up where you can better see Sabina's nipple between Ajax's fingers. Just a detail I thought would add to the scene.



Again in this scene he has a firm hold on that breast as the hammer comes down.



Going to other examples, there is fondling going on in this scene as they prepare to whip Sabina:



Some ass-grabbing in this carrying scene:



And again here, where they are wrestling her up into position on the patibulum to be nailed:



And again here, where Hercules pulls her body outward from the cross to give room for Antius to set her cornu in place:

And . . . it's time for some more on-topic pics.

The photo will be familiar to fans of WelshWebb and his model Shannon. The render is an X-cross by Weru, and the death-in-the-arena manip is by Gabrieleknight.

The suffering ladies are all unambiguously gnashing their teeth.

jedakk said:

Of course the next caress Sabina will feel on that breast will be by the tails of that whip.

There are other scenes I've been working on where Sabina's breasts get felt up. You see it in this sequence where they are nailing her right wrist, and Ajax's hand on her breast is the last thing on Sabina's mind.

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So these are new. Thought I was dealing with more memory holes. Well, that settles it. I really will start a "On the Recurrence of Sexual Blahblahblah" thread soon.

Apostate said:

So these are new. Thought I was dealing with more memory holes. Well, that settles it. I really will start a "On the Recurrence of Sexual Blahblahblah" thread soon.

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The most images new for me, Apostate and of course, Jedakk. Thank you!

Apostate said:

But I can't see any impediment to him and his men having their way with her. Did I forget Julia Lepida had a 'no rape' clause in the crucifixion contract?

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Julia Lepida didn't say they couldn't rape her, it was the carnifex, Balbus, who still wanted to buy her himself and sell her for a profit. He didn't want anything done to her that would lower her value. By the time he knew that the sale wasn't going to happen, it was too late.

Sabina described to Salonina what happened in her cell after they took her away:


But then I wondered how she got so much dirt on her in places that her dress covered. I hated to ask, but I needed to know.

“Did Balbus and the others… do anything to you after they took you away?”

She stared down at the floor as she answered. “They brought me to this cell, then started taking off all of my clothes, and… and I fought, and then I was down on the floor, in the dirt, fighting and screaming while they pulled my clothes off. Then they made me stand there naked, all of the men looking at me. Balbus reached for one of my breasts and I hit him, but one of the Nubians held my arms.
“I thought they were going to rape me then, but all Balbus did was cup my breasts, squeeze them and look at them. One of them held a lamp up while he looked at me, front and back, examining me like a pig in the marketplace.

“But the worst was when one of the Nubians bent me over, and I was crying for them to stop but they wouldn’t. Balbus was looking and feeling between my legs, even spreading my porcella open. He said that I wasn’t a virgin, and I thought for sure that the next thing I felt was going to be his cock thrusting into me, but that was the end of it.

“They left me alone in the dark then. I gathered up my clothes and dressed. Since then the only people I’ve seen have been the Nubians who bring water from time to time. And then you.”

“Balbus was examining you to see how much you might bring in the slave market. He wants Julia Lepida to sell you to him, but so far she’s refused. I don’t think there’s much hope of her changing her mind on that.

“And you not being a virgin might be both good and bad. Balbus would offer more for you if you hadn’t been deflowered, and maybe your domina would sell you then. But if not, well, they can’t crucify a virgin, so they’d have had to rape you. Seems like Balbus won’t do anything to lower your market value. Could be that you’re safe for the time being.”

All of which, of course, is my choice regarding incorporating rape into this story. I could have, just didn't want to. That would have been cliche' - why read it if you already know what's going to happen?

jedakk said:

All of which, of course, is my choice regarding incorporating rape into this story. I could have, just didn't want to. That would have been cliche' - why read it if you already know what's going to happen?

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That answers my next question, whether you were going to have Balbus and Associates, LTD gangbang Sabina in her cell. Rape on the cross is also a popular trope, but as you say it's cliché.

I had legionaries rape the Greek Girls in a dungeon. But when it came time for their nemesis Publius to do the same to them on their crosses, I inverted the trope by having him unwittingly poison himself.

And yes, only one of these Jastrow renders is on topic; was wondering how to shoehorn her in here. Unless you count Adonia's good natured, teeth baring smile.

A few more scenes that involved some inappropriate touching from The Serpent's Eye. Nobody was about to try this unless Lucilla's hands were restrained somehow. In this scene, she's busy trying to strangle one of the onlookers. Her loincloth has slipped some and Hercules has one hand on her ass and the other might be on a breast, can't tell.



And as soon as they managed to get her loose from the onlooker, she kicked Hercules in the balls and dropped him. She was dangerous because she knew very well that they couldn't afford to abuse her too severely. Balbus, the carnifex, had already committed to crucifying her twelve times according to her sentence, and if his slaves did something out of anger that caused that not to happen, it would not go well with them.

When she is hanging by her wrists on her X-shaped cross, she does the only thing she can to find some kind of purchase for her feet. And that invites Antius, the executioner, to take advantage. Despite her protests (which all of us guys have heard before) she can't stop the arousal and is becoming lost in it.



But that ends all at once when Antius' gentle touch becomes a vicious pinch. And he tells her that if she doesn't cooperate, he can make her suffering worse.



When they need to pull her body out away from the cross so Antius can set her sedile in place, Hercules doesn't lose the opportunity to have a feel of her ass. We don't know what Lucilla is saying to him, but it's probably not words of endearment.

Just a few more:

When they are tying Lucilla's feet in place, she loses her nerve and struggles against them as they begin to tie her right foot to the cross. Hercules forces her leg and foot into place, getting pretty intimate in the process.




Like Salonina told Sabina when she visited her in prison on the day before her crucifixion:

I never did warm to your X crosses back when, Jedakk. But the Lucilla subplot has made me a convert. ;-)

Speaking of way back when, one of the regulars on Foundation just posted a link to Hufkens' site, which is back in business.

http://www.crucified-women.com/hufkens/

One of the collections there is called Arkady's Masterpiece, which old timers remember fondly. There are more pics from that shoot than I remember, like these. In some her feet have slipped free of bindings, but I decline to complain.

"The family that prays together, gets savagely flogged and crucified naked by tyrannical Roman overlords together," is the old adage that nobody has ever repeated for generations. That's the theme of this heartwarming picture worthy of Norman Rockwell.

In the scene, from l-r, is mom, daughter, Roman officer, and son. Mom is delirious with pain. Daughter screams as Roman officer gropes her breast. Said officer, far from abusing his authority, follows crux regs to the letter by heaping sexual abuse upon the girl's already unspeakable shame and degradation. Son, looking on through a fog of agony and impotent rage and horror, gnashes his teeth.

Which is the one on-topic detail in this post.

messaline said:

I think that I already saw this pic (at the Foundation ?) ... but who is the artist ?

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I'm guessing, Jastrow?

messaline said:

I think that I already saw this pic (at the Foundation ?) ... but who is the artist ?

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You did indeed, Messaline, and it's probably somewhere here on CF.

bobinder said:

I'm guessing, Jastrow?

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And you are correct, Bob. A very early render, which which he later reworked as Mom. Daughter, Tyrannical Roman Overlord, and Dad. While technically more polished, I prefer Jastrow's original because it fits into my twisted Ben Hur scenario. Early in the movie Messala threatens to crucify Judah, "With your mother and sister hanging on crosses in front of you!"

Which would make for a really hot co-ed crux scene, but a very short movie.

Apostate said:

Hot body, too.

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Even so, she must be annoyed about all that time spent in the gym, toning her body, now that she's just going to hang around on a cross.

Apostate said:

"The family that prays together, gets savagely flogged and crucified naked by tyrannical Roman overlords together," is the old adage that nobody has ever repeated for generations. That's the theme of this heartwarming picture worthy of Norman Rockwell.

In the scene, from l-r, is mom, daughter, Roman officer, and son. Mom is delirious with pain. Daughter screams as Roman officer gropes her breast. Said officer, far from abusing his authority, follows crux regs to the letter by heaping sexual abuse upon the girl's already unspeakable shame and degradation. Son, looking on through a fog of agony and impotent rage and horror, gnashes his teeth.

Which is the one on-topic detail in this post.

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If I remember correctly the first version of this picture showed the young man looking insufficiently "Jewish" enough, if you get my meaning, and the picture was altered slightly to the one you see.
I've just had a quick look but I can't find it. Anyone remember the original name of it? It's showing up to me here as just "image"

Even so, she must be annoyed about all that time spent in the gym, toning her body, now that she's just going to hang around on a cross

The rest of us appreciate her efforts, Jolly

Apostate said:

Which would make for a really hot co-ed crux scene, but a very short movie.

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Sounds like a win-win scenario.

phlebas said:

The rest of us appreciate her efforts, Jolly

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I didn't mean to imply a lack of appreciation, only philosophizing on the general futility of life generally, and gyms specifically.

Jollyrei said:

I didn't mean to imply a lack of appreciation, only philosophizing on the general futility of life generally, and gyms specifically.

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"Eat right, exercise, die anyway."

Saw that on a T-shirt once. Best excuse for sloth ever.