A Question for Straight Guys

[willowfall]

And before anybody gets upset you'll see in a moment why only straight guys can really answer the question.

There is an awful lot of porn out there which depicts multiple guys doing one girl (gang rape, double penetration. etc.) yet when I was dating men not one of them ever suggested the 3some with another guy. And in SL, despite most furniture being able to handle it, I've never encountered guys who wanted to do the 'many-on-one-girl' thing. In fact I've had perspective partners get upset when the it is suggested by another guy so they can share the prisoner\slave girl instead of waiting.

So then why is this type of porn so popular?

And before you suggest it is a “woman's” fantasy, better than 95% of porn is produced for a male audience and this type of porn constitutes way over 5% of all existing porn.

And before I am asked, YES I have gang rape fantasies but remember that I am a sub who has a high tolerance for and enjoys pain, most of my fantasies are set in a ancient\medieval context and I get off on them because of the feeling of helplessness, the humiliation and the pain I imagine it would cause not out of 'normal' sexual desires.

And while all are welcome to chime in I don't feel bi-sexual guys can truly answer this question because they do find other men sexually attractive and gay guys, well let's face you aren't after pussy.

So fire away kids.

kisses

willowfall

 

[Whipper]

I prefer other kind of situations

 

[willowfall]

I prefer other kind of situations

Completely understand that, but then do you view or just ignore this type of porn?

I'm looking for some insight as I find the human psyche fascinating.

kisses

willowfall

 

[Wragg]

just ignore this type of porn?

Personally, I do ignore it, Willow, it doesn't float my boat.

I guess there must be some people out there who fantasise about such activity; this may not be the go-to site for them, though.

 

[Apostate]

Willow, oddly enough, even though I’ve never participated in the activities below, and would feel uncomfortable being naked with a erection in front of other naked guys with erections, these are some of my more intense erotic fantasies.

And yes, this resists analysis. OTOH, I also get off pictures of screaming women nailed naked to crosses, which in real life would make my gorge rise and which I would certainly never actually do.

So I’ve long ago made peace with my fantasies; they are what they are, I enjoy them, they hurt no one, and are nobody else's concern.

 

[Servus Venandi]

I have no interest in other cocks, so I'm just as confused as you are about the popularity of 2+ guys on one girl.

Maybe it's a domination thing, restricted to fantasy like any number of kinks. I wouldn't actually want to whip a girl till she bleeds, or put nails in her wrists, but I depict this stuff in artwork and writing all the time, and enjoy it. Makes sense that a gang-bang could be similar for a lot of guys.

 

[windar]

I guess I can see the attraction. I've included a few such scenes on some of my stories. I guess it's a type of male bonding, maybe. I note that Barb wrote a couple of chapters with those scenes in our collaborative stories, so perhaps it isn't that uncommon among women. Or we just write stuff that isn't necessarily our personal fantasies.

By the way, I note that Germany has banned all gatherings of >2 people so no such scenes there IRL..

 

[Apostate]

I guess I can see the attraction. I've included a few such scenes on some of my stories. I guess it's a type of male bonding, maybe. I note that Barb wrote a couple of chapters with those scenes in our collaborative stories, so perhaps it isn't that uncommon among women. Or we just write stuff that isn't necessarily our personal fantasies.

I just remembered that a straight female friend of mine writes Starsky and Hutch slash fiction, and she ran one past me. In it S&H spitroast then double penetrate a star struck young lady, to the immense gratification of all three.

A Mary Sue story? Sure, but no harm in that, and she's an excellent writer to boot.

 

[fallenmystic]

I have a little pet theory of mine which I tried to elaborate on another place which wasn't well received back then. I hope our members here may have a less prejudiced mind so they could tell from homophobia and an attempt to explain potential reason behind such a symptom.

In short, I think a straight man's brain is hardwired to receive unpleasant feelings when it witnesses a naked member of another man from evolutionary reasons. Of course, I'm not claiming all of their brains are like that which would be obviously false. But I'm pretty convinced that it's more or less true for most of straight men and it could constitute a major reason why homophobia is still prevalent in society (aside from other reasons like religion, for instance).

The most important role of any animal species is to procreate and hand down their genes to their offsprings, and also that the primary role of male members of human species is to hunt, fight, and compete to serve such a purpose. Of course, in modern society, women can do most of the things men can do. But in an evolutionary standpoint, it's a "man's job" to do such things, and that is why they have evolved to have more muscles or bigger bones than their female counterparts.

As such, each of male members compete with each other to spread their genes. For them, the more females they can mate with, the better chance their genes will be handed down to the next generations. So they have to see other male members of the group as competitors, and their genitals as the most dangerous weapon that may be used against them to deny their chance of a successful procreation. If someone else impregnate a better looking female first, he won't be able to procreate his offspring with her for at least 9 months.

So I believe they have evolved to receive almost aggressive feelings when they witness any image that may be associated with procreation involving their potential competitors - other males.

On the other hand, females don't have to see other females that way. Because anoter female having a sex with a potential mating partner for her doesn't prevent him from impregnating her as well.

I believe this could be the reason why we see more number of women who feel tolerant or even accepting to images of a lesbian action, than number of men who feel likewise about images of a gay sex.

To answer to your question finally with such a premise, I think it could be because more men feel uncomfortable seeing another man's genital or even just his naked body that they generally shun pornography dealing with such a theme, even though they may have a fancy of a gang rape scenario itself. As such, probably many straight men may enjoy seeing photographs or illustrations depicting a woman assaulted by multiple men, but if they show male genitals in details, or focus too much on men's body, there's more chance that they'll find them to be less attractive (to say the least).

And when it comes to a real life threesome scenario, you can't selectively see what you want to see while you are in an action. Hence, their general aversion to such a suggestion, I assume.

On a side note, if my conjecture is true, I think we are taking a wrong approach to teach people to be tolerant of homosexuality. If our brain is so hardwired to feel aversion to see another man's genital, it'd be futile to tell them "you shouldn't feel grossed out about gay sex" because it's like telling one who can't eat carrots to love them.

Rather, I think we should tell them it can be natural to feel grossed out with gay sex images, but that's not the same thing with hating gays. It's natural to feel such a way because they are straight, not because there's anything wrong with gays. It's like I feel grossed out when I see a scat porn but I find it a perfectly fine fetish for a man to have - as long as they take a shower after that, that is.

I believe it'll be more effective to teach people how to distinguish one's sexual orientation or inclinations from the man himself to make them more tolerant of the sexual minorities, than giving them a wrong impression that they should be able to love what they love too and they should feel guilty if they fail to do so.

 

[crumera]

For myself no!
1 on 1 is favorite for me.

I use it for my stories etc though but this is more of gang rape of horny soldiers doing the soon te be crucified woman.

Personally I wouldnt be afraid to see other men's penis.
Contact would be a thingy I wouldn't like very much
For me the main factor that makes it icky is the sperm of other men allready present.

Not my cup of tea.
Maybe if I could go first I wouldnt mind that much

 

[Wolfie1389]

For me, it's not so much the physical settings in porn, or the events, it is rather the visual contrast that is the turn on. I'm not aroused when I think about participating in something with other guys, but to see it on screen, as long as it is in contrast from what society would consider normal, then I get aroused by the visual composition. The same goes for interracial porn, the contrast of black and white is a turn on. Older - Younger, Large and Small, fall in the same lines, both having the turn on be in the contrasting visuals. That contrast can also be Normal vs Taboo.

 

[poem21045]

And before anybody gets upset you'll see in a moment why only straight guys can really answer the question.

There is an awful lot of porn out there which depicts multiple guys doing one girl (gang rape, double penetration. etc.) yet when I was dating men not one of them ever suggested the 3some with another guy. And in SL, despite most furniture being able to handle it, I've never encountered guys who wanted to do the 'many-on-one-girl' thing. In fact I've had perspective partners get upset when the it is suggested by another guy so they can share the prisoner\slave girl instead of waiting.

So then why is this type of porn so popular?

And before you suggest it is a “woman's” fantasy, better than 95% of porn is produced for a male audience and this type of porn constitutes way over 5% of all existing porn.

And before I am asked, YES I have gang rape fantasies but remember that I am a sub who has a high tolerance for and enjoys pain, most of my fantasies are set in a ancient\medieval context and I get off on them because of the feeling of helplessness, the humiliation and the pain I imagine it would cause not out of 'normal' sexual desires.

And while all are welcome to chime in I don't feel bi-sexual guys can truly answer this question because they do find other men sexually attractive and gay guys, well let's face you aren't after pussy.

So fire away kids.

kisses

willowfall

Two males + one female does not equal my fantasy.

Now, the opposite. . . that churns my butter!



No, no, I meant figuratively. . .



Much butter! better!

 

[Jollyrei]

I have no idea why that sort of porn is popular. I suppose I'm about as straight as they come - never had any sexual interest in another man. I have no desire to be in a sexual situation with another man. I don't feel any revulsion for another man's body. I don't get uneasy in a shower with other men at the gym; I'm simply not interested. I really don't see the attraction for a 2M1F configuration. I have seen data that suggests that women are more likely to be bi than men. If this is true, a video featuring a 1M2F configuration should be more popular. That said, the world is a wiggly place.

 

[Nightman]

I would never participate in such an activity but I have on occasion viewed double-penetration porn. Although sometime it is a turn-off it is not my major source of excitement. What typically excites me is spanking, caning and other forms of CP especially when the female is made to strip before punishment. Female torture and crux is also exciting - otherwise I would not be in this website.

 

[Gibbs505]

In life, one on one!
Fantasy is different however.
Somehow my brain makes it work!

 

[jacksjg89]

I get off on them because of the feeling of helplessness, the humiliation and the pain I imagine it would cause not out of 'normal' sexual desires.

I think this is it. And I was just talking with @Eulalia about this yesterday. I think a straight man watching a woman get spit roasted is attractive because it adds to her helplessness, being surrounded and outnumbered. And I think when straight men watch this, they fantasize about being both men at the same time.

And for whatever strange reason, I find this fantasy more attractive than the fantasy of one man having two female slaves, let alone a whole harem, because when most of watch porn, all our attention is on the female, and having two female subjects can distract from that. The female is the center of attention, (which is almost a pun), the men want to fuck her and the women want to be here, and the poor male porn stars only get the attention of gay and bi men.

There's something weird in porn and gender, where women get off on other women getting off, but men don't get off on other men getting off, but on the woman's sensory overload, which is freaking hot. So in this scenario, the two men could easily be replaced by genderless robots or a fucking machines.

 

[jacksjg89]

I have a little pet theory of mine which I tried to elaborate on another place which wasn't well received back then. I hope our members here may have a less prejudiced mind so they could tell from homophobia and an attempt to explain potential reason behind such a symptom.

In short, I think a straight man's brain is hardwired to receive unpleasant feelings when it witnesses a naked member of another man from evolutionary reasons. Of course, I'm not claiming all of their brains are like that which would be obviously false. But I'm pretty convinced that it's more or less true for most of straight men and it could constitute a major reason why homophobia is still prevalent in society (aside from other reasons like religion, for instance).

The most important role of any animal species is to procreate and hand down their genes to their offsprings, and also that the primary role of male members of human species is to hunt, fight, and compete to serve such a purpose. Of course, in modern society, women can do most of the things men can do. But in an evolutionary standpoint, it's a "man's job" to do such things, and that is why they have evolved to have more muscles or bigger bones than their female counterparts.

As such, each of male members compete with each other to spread their genes. For them, the more females they can mate with, the better chance their genes will be handed down to the next generations. So they have to see other male members of the group as competitors, and their genitals as the most dangerous weapon that may be used against them to deny their chance of a successful procreation. If someone else impregnate a better looking female first, he won't be able to procreate his offspring with her for at least 9 months.

So I believe they have evolved to receive almost aggressive feelings when they witness any image that may be associated with procreation involving their potential competitors - other males.

On the other hand, females don't have to see other females that way. Because anoter female having a sex with a potential mating partner for her doesn't prevent him from impregnating her as well.

I believe this could be the reason why we see more number of women who feel tolerant or even accepting to images of a lesbian action, than number of men who feel likewise about images of a gay sex.

To answer to your question finally with such a premise, I think it could be because more men feel uncomfortable seeing another man's genital or even just his naked body that they generally shun pornography dealing with such a theme, even though they may have a fancy of a gang rape scenario itself. As such, probably many straight men may enjoy seeing photographs or illustrations depicting a woman assaulted by multiple men, but if they show male genitals in details, or focus too much on men's body, there's more chance that they'll find them to be less attractive (to say the least).

And when it comes to a real life threesome scenario, you can't selectively see what you want to see while you are in an action. Hence, their general aversion to such a suggestion, I assume.

On a side note, if my conjecture is true, I think we are taking a wrong approach to teach people to be tolerant of homosexuality. If our brain is so hardwired to feel aversion to see another man's genital, it'd be futile to tell them "you shouldn't feel grossed out about gay sex" because it's like telling one who can't eat carrots to love them.

Rather, I think we should tell them it can be natural to feel grossed out with gay sex images, but that's not the same thing with hating gays. It's natural to feel such a way because they are straight, not because there's anything wrong with gays. It's like I feel grossed out when I see a scat porn but I find it a perfectly fine fetish for a man to have - as long as they take a shower after that, that is.

I believe it'll be more effective to teach people how to distinguish one's sexual orientation or inclinations from the man himself to make them more tolerant of the sexual minorities, than giving them a wrong impression that they should be able to love what they love too and they should feel guilty if they fail to do so.

I think the competitiveness of men for offspring probably related to what I said about the female being the object of desire in porn. Females can empathize with the woman being double teamed but the men empathize with the men, if that makes any kind of sense

 

[fallenmystic]

...because when most of watch porn, all our attention is on the female, and having two female subjects can distract from that.

I largely agree with you, especially when it comes to vanilla porns. Still, I'd like to add that there can be people who actually prefer such material featuring group of girls because it is the case with me. The reason is, I usually enjoy such fantasies from the perspective of a submissive or slave girl. As such, the focus is more on the feeling of humiliation of the girl, than on the desire of a man to have a sex with her, in that case. And I think it adds to such a feeling when the girl in question is just one of the many, like a slave waiting to be sold among a dozen other girls, or a naked prisoner lined up for a roll call, for example.

The female is the center of attention, (which is almost a pun), the men want to fuck her and the women want to be here, and the poor male porn stars only get the attention of gay and bi men.
...Females can empathize with the woman being double teamed...

It's one of the reasons why I wish there were more porn for women. It would certainly take a different approach to make it more effective for the female audience. Are there many POV porns, for example, taken from the girl's perspective? I have to confess that I'm not (that) well versed in porns, but I don't think I've ever watched one of such videos.

It would be certainly interesting for me if there were BDSM videos taken from the female victim's perspective.

 

[jacksjg89]

As such, the focus is more on the feeling of humiliation of the girl, than on the desire of a man to have a sex with her, in that case. And I think it adds to such a feeling when the girl in question is just one of the many, like a slave waiting to be sold among a dozen other girls, or a naked prisoner lined up for a roll call, for example.

It's funny, I think we have the same desire but we go about it differently, where as a girl being ones of many makes her less special, I prefer the girl alone, dominated by a group of evil men, overpowered and helpless. And I think, getting to @willowfall question, each man you add to the gang bang serves the purpose of intensifying the woman's situation, as long as the men don't try and get in the way and take over the narrative.

I largely agree with you, especially when it comes to vanilla porns. Still, I'd like to add that there can be people who actually prefer such material featuring group of girls because it is the case with me. The reason is, I usually enjoy such fantasies from the perspective of a submissive or slave girl. As such, the focus is more on the feeling of humiliation of the girl, than on the desire of a man to have a sex with her, in that case. And I think it adds to such a feeling when the girl in question is just one of the many, like a slave waiting to be sold among a dozen other girls, or a naked prisoner lined up for a roll call, for example.


It's one of the reasons why I wish there were more porn for women. It would certainly take a different approach to make it more effective for the female audience. Are there many POV porns, for example, taken from the girl's perspective? I have to confess that I'm not (that) well versed in porns, but I don't think I've ever watched one of such videos.

It would be certainly interesting for me if there were BDSM videos taken from the female victim's perspective.

Nice humble brag saying you're not well versed in porn

Men are more visual than women, who they respond more to feelings, descriptions of feelings, and seeing a woman writhe in orgasmic agony.

However, you can find playlist on pornhub for "porn loved by women" and I also highly recommend a podcast called Girls on Porn:

Girls on Porn.

girlsonporn.com

Their perspective is really interesting

 

[fallenmystic]

It's funny, I think we have the same desire but we go about it differently...

That's why I find such a discussion so interesting

However, you can find playlist on pornhub for "porn loved by women" and I also highly recommend a podcast called Girls on Porn.

Thanks much for the recommendation! Now I have something else to listen to while I work