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On 8 June 218, 1800 years ago, the Battle of Antioch was fought between the armies of the Emperor Macrinus and the strangest person aspiring to the empire of Roman people until then.

Or ever.

'Let the best man oddest [censored]* win!' thought the III Gallica and II Parthica, fighting under Gannys, Comazon and Euthychianus (that's likely two persons, not three, but historians keep disputing who bore two different cognomina) to restore the Severan dynasty, even if the pretender was pretty weird -- and the Syrian [censored] became the new Emperor.

Well, everyone knows Elagabalus. :b1:

*Censoreds motivated here in equal measure by the forum rules on age and the necessary strength of epithets.
 
Worthy of the magnificent prose of Edward Gibbon:
'A rational voluptuary adheres with invariable respect to the temperate dictates of nature, and improves the gratifications of sense by social intercourse, endearing connections, and the soft colouring of taste and the imagination. But Elagabalus (I speak of the emperor of that name), corrupted by his youth, his country, and his fortune, abandoned himself to the grossest pleasures with ungoverned fury, and soon found disgust and satiety in the midst of his enjoyments. The inflammatory powers of art were summoned to his aid: the confused multitude of women, of wines, and of dishes, and the studied variety of attitudes and sauces, served to revive his languid appetites. New terms and new inventions in these sciences, the only ones cultivated and patronised by the monarch, signalised his reign, and transmitted his infamy to succeeding times. A capricious prodigality supplied the want of taste and elegance; and whilst Elagabalus lavished away the treasures of his people in the wildest extravagance, his own voice and that of his flatterers applauded a spirit and magnificence unknown to the tameness of his predecessors. To confound the order of seasons and climates, to sport with the passions and prejudices of his subjects, and to subvert every law of nature and decency, were in the number of his most delicious amusements. A long train of concubines, and a rapid succession of wives, among whom was a vestal virgin, ravished by force from her sacred asylum, were insufficient to satisfy the impotence of his passions. The master of the Roman world affected to copy the dress and manners of the female sex, preferred the distaff to the sceptre, and dishonoured the principal dignities of the empire by distributing them among his numerous lovers; one of whom was publicly invested with the title and authority of the emperor's, or, as he more properly styled himself, of the empress's husband.'
 
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The price:
The US Cemetery, Omaha Beach, 9,300+
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The Canadian Cemetery, Juno Beach, 2,000+
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Bayeux Cemetery, near Sword Beach, 4,000+ Commonwealth troops, 505 others.
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The Memorial at Bayeux, inscribed with the names of over 1,800 Commonwealth forces lost on D-Day and immediately after, who have no known graves.
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They almost didn't make it off Omaha. The bombing by the US Army Air Corps (for the first but not the only time in Normandy) was off target (they refused to fly parallel to the line for fear of exposure to fighters so they came in perpendicular and overshot) and the troops of the 1st and 29th Divisions had to scramble up the cliffs and take out the bunkers by hand. Eisenhower almost had to use the note he'd scrawled out ahead of time for a dreaded press conference. "Our landings have failed, and I have withdrawn the troops. My decision to attack at this time and place was based on the best information available. The troops, the air, and the navy did everything that bravery and devotion to duty could do. If any blame or fault is to be attached to the attempt, it is mine alone." He had to make a tough call and trust that a predicted break in the weather would materialize and let them take advantage of the high tide. In fact, storms ravaged the coast right after the landings and interfered with supply.
The whole thing was meticulously planned and choreographed, with shipping lanes marked out in the Channel. But lots of things went wrong. Postponements had troops on ships for two days with toilets full of vomit. The airborne drops were scattered. General Maxwell Taylor's radio broke in half and sank in a bog--he didn't know where anyone was, so he and the officer-heavy headquarters company took the little French hamlet off Utah beach and waited for the troops coming ashore. Destroyers disobeyed orders (meant to avoid ship losses to sunken obstacles) and came in close to basically provide artillery support.
The Germans were mostly immobile units, who just stood and fought tenaciously. Hitler supposedly left orders not to be awakened, and also kept his mobile Panzers in the Pas de Calais in place for tens of hours because he thought the whole thing was a feint.
The First Canadian Army (little Canada with 6 million people declared war on the big, bad Reich in 1939) endured Dieppe, fought with distinction in Sicily and Italy as they had in World War I ("And No Birds Sang" is Farley Mowhat's memoir), and "earned" their own beach on D-Day. Canadian ships played a big role in protecting the convoys.
Wars may be lost for lack of planning (or loopy orders from foolhardy dictators), but planning alone surely doesn't win them.
 
The First Canadian Army (little Canada with 6 million people declared war on the big, bad Reich in 1939) endured Dieppe, fought with distinction in Sicily and Italy as they had in World War I ("And No Birds Sang" is Farley Mowhat's memoir), and "earned" their own beach on D-Day. Canadian ships played a big role in protecting the convoys.
Canadian troops indeed landed on Juno Beach, the westernmost beach of the 'British' sector. It saw the heaviest fighting after Omaha Beach. There is a story that, in Courseuilles-sur-Mer, Canadians discovered that the beach was full of landmines. Full aware of the danger, they decided to storm across it, rather than being pinned down on the shore. One in ten did not reach the other side.
 
Some damn horse won the 'triple crown' today. It was less than trained at the Tree estate. It was supposed to be a tight race but Justify galloped past the field...

The Cardinals won too... but it was against Cincinnati... They still won!!!
The Cubs won too, only six hits and two runs but the Pirates only got one and none. We'll see if Hendricks can overcome his recent problems today. If you don't beat teams like Cincinnati, you can't pull off enough wins to be competitive.
The horse probably agrees with your attitude--"why do I have to do this crap?"
 
Happy 4th of July Tree

and Barb and Windar and etc etc :D

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It's already 7:30 pm here and I only just noticed the date!)
 
July 4th is tomorrow. In the United States a group of leaders signed the Declaration of Independence leading to the the birth of my country. It wasn't perfect then and still is not but I think in the past 242 years she has aged well!
It was actually signed July 2, I believe. The Continental Congress had to vacate Philadelphia, shall we say, under duress.
One thing that was unique at the time (after a failed attempt called the "Articles of Confederation") was a written Constitution with an independent court to interpret it. People came to take it seriously--they tried like hell to get around it, but "unconstitutional" still means something in the United States, as do the first ten amendments, the "Bill of Rights" which the first Congress insisted on adding. The compromise on slavery was a major weakness though, and the question of "states' rights" to override Federal authority was a major headache. The Civil War "solved" that (although the scars still linger 150+ years later, but thanks to air conditioning the South is filling up with Yankees and is not so solid and overtly racist any more), and when it was over people started to replace "the United States are" with "the United States is".
Bismarck said "There is a special Providence for children, fools, drunkards, and the United States of America". Mark Twain said "The United States is blessed in having no native criminal class--save Congress". The checks and balances still allow for an economic vitality that is hard to replicate in more centralized places, and most Americans aren't afraid to give authority the proverbial finger. Issues get fought out in public. Maybe that's why the United States, with all its faults, is still here, and Bismarck isn't. Too bad more people don't pay attention and vote intelligently, though. You can't have everything.
 
July 4 1776 - The Second Continental Congress of the thirteen United States of America, a collegiate body of the representatives of the colonies, adopts the declaration of independence.

To deal with the drafting of the statement was the so-called Commission of Five composed of Thomas Jefferson (future third president of the United States), John Adams (future second president of the United States), Benjamin Franklin (future American ambassador in France), Robert Livingston (future first Chancellor of the State of New York) and Roger Sherman (future senator). Here the beginning of the declaration:
When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.


In the original intentions, America should not be a democracy - the word never appears in the articles of the constitution - but a republic. Not just for the irresistible charm of Ancient Rome. The Greek word demokratía called "the direct and dangerous" incarnation of government by the people.
The United States, on the other hand, would be led by a group of enlightened elitists who, if only temporarily given to politics, would administer public affairs without being led astray by passions. And they would lose their freedom only if the population had imposed their will on the ruling class, altering the institutional architecture. Politics had to be the prerogative of a few literary men, selected for wealth as an active and passive electorate.
The fetish of representativeness was the diaphragm to be inserted between the lucid pursuit of public interest and the blind humor of the masses. The president would have been chosen indirectly, from an electoral college that met in semi-heterogeneity. The very idea of holding elections exclusively on Tuesday, the day before the market, was to discourage citizens from taking an interest in public affairs.
A gap that would have made the nation immune from the violence that upset Europe.

July 4 1826 - On the same day the constituent fathers die, respectively the second and third president of the United States of America (1797-1801; 1801-1809), John Adams and Thomas Jefferson.

We are firmly convinced that, as a nation and as individuals, our interests, though scrupulously balanced, are in no way separable from our moral obligations; and it is on the basis of this belief that we act.

Thomas Jefferson, Second settlement speech, 4/3/1805.

When, in 1800, France took possession of Louisiana - which at the time stretched for most of the current central United States - subtracting it from Spain, an alarmed President Jefferson found himself forced to reconsider the relationship between trade and foreign policy, between the freedoms policies of US citizens and their economic freedoms. The city of New Orleans, falling into French hands with all its population, in fact represented an absolutely strategic commercial terminal.

Firmly resolved to prevent the dispute from escalating into a war of uncertain outcome, Jefferson sent James Monroe to Paris to negotiate the sale of New Orleans with the French; the negotiations were successful, and on April 30, 1803, an international treaty sanctioned the US purchase not only of the city, but of the immense Louisiana, for the modest sum of 15 million dollars.
 
July 4 1776 - The Second Continental Congress of the thirteen United States of America, a collegiate body of the representatives of the colonies, adopts the declaration of independence.

To deal with the drafting of the statement was the so-called Commission of Five composed of Thomas Jefferson (future third president of the United States), John Adams (future second president of the United States), Benjamin Franklin (future American ambassador in France), Robert Livingston (future first Chancellor of the State of New York) and Roger Sherman (future senator). Here the beginning of the declaration:
When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.


In the original intentions, America should not be a democracy - the word never appears in the articles of the constitution - but a republic. Not just for the irresistible charm of Ancient Rome. The Greek word demokratía called "the direct and dangerous" incarnation of government by the people.
The United States, on the other hand, would be led by a group of enlightened elitists who, if only temporarily given to politics, would administer public affairs without being led astray by passions. And they would lose their freedom only if the population had imposed their will on the ruling class, altering the institutional architecture. Politics had to be the prerogative of a few literary men, selected for wealth as an active and passive electorate.
The fetish of representativeness was the diaphragm to be inserted between the lucid pursuit of public interest and the blind humor of the masses. The president would have been chosen indirectly, from an electoral college that met in semi-heterogeneity. The very idea of holding elections exclusively on Tuesday, the day before the market, was to discourage citizens from taking an interest in public affairs.
A gap that would have made the nation immune from the violence that upset Europe.

July 4 1826 - On the same day the constituent fathers die, respectively the second and third president of the United States of America (1797-1801; 1801-1809), John Adams and Thomas Jefferson.

We are firmly convinced that, as a nation and as individuals, our interests, though scrupulously balanced, are in no way separable from our moral obligations; and it is on the basis of this belief that we act.

Thomas Jefferson, Second settlement speech, 4/3/1805.

When, in 1800, France took possession of Louisiana - which at the time stretched for most of the current central United States - subtracting it from Spain, an alarmed President Jefferson found himself forced to reconsider the relationship between trade and foreign policy, between the freedoms policies of US citizens and their economic freedoms. The city of New Orleans, falling into French hands with all its population, in fact represented an absolutely strategic commercial terminal.

Firmly resolved to prevent the dispute from escalating into a war of uncertain outcome, Jefferson sent James Monroe to Paris to negotiate the sale of New Orleans with the French; the negotiations were successful, and on April 30, 1803, an international treaty sanctioned the US purchase not only of the city, but of the immense Louisiana, for the modest sum of 15 million dollars.

Yes, and senators were originally chosen by state legislatures. Everything, including the Senate and the Electoral College, was designed to make sure smaller states had a voice. The Senate has 6-year terms, so they can outlast Presidents, and only the Senate has the power to confirm the president's appointments to the cabinet and the courts. Only one senator is chosen at a time in each state, making the Senate in theory less dependent on the popular mood and more elitist. The whole thing was a hard sell, too. Originally, the number 1 vote getter in the Electoral College became President, and the second Vice President. There weren't supposed to be parties, so that didn't matter. In fact, parties quickly appeared and the Constitution had to be amended to have the Electoral College vote for President and Vice President as a ticket ("Cactus Jack" Garner, of Texas, FDR's first Vice President, said "The Vice Presidency isn't worth a bucket of warm spit"). Also, technically the Electors are not bound to vote for the person they told the voters they favored. In the election of John Quincy Adams, the sixth President, the electoral college was deadlocked, and Henry Clay of Kentucky had the Kentucky Congressional delegation vote for Adams, even though the people of the state voted overwhelmingly for Andrew Jackson. Adams was a one-term President, however--the system was self-correcting. There have been at least four Presidents (Hayes, Benjamin Harrison, George W Bush in his first term, and Trump) who did not get the majority of the popular vote. In the case of Hayes (1876), a deal was struck to withdraw Federal occupation troops from the South in exchange for electoral college votes. Both Hayes and Harrison were also one-term presidents.
Alaska (Seward's icebox) was also purchases from Russia for a modest sum by Secretary of State Seward after Lincoln's assassination, and Congress in the end approved it. Like Louisiana, it turned out well.
Senators are now elected by popular vote, but each state has equal representation in the Senate. State legislatures determine what district boundaries for Congressional elections will be. But people are fighting back. Many states allow recall elections of state officials--"you suck, we want you out before your term ends". Some allow both elected judges and recall of judges (Arizona's first Constitution was vetoed by President Taft because it allowed state judges to be recalled). Some states, notably California, now have a bipartisan commission draw district lines for election to the House. The Arizona legislature argued this was unconstitutional, but the Supreme Court didn't agree. Other mostly western states (the newest ones) allow "referenda" and "initiatives", which allow the people to bypass the legislature and vote directly on laws.
 
What are they after? The secret of real beer, as opposed to the flavored water we tend to have here?
Frank, I think you grossly underestimate American beer in this day and age. Sure, the product of the large national companies (multinational to be exact, since many are now actually owned by foreign corporations) are dreck. But every city and even small town in the US now has local breweries, often many which make terrific products that win competitions all over the world. Moreover, the variety is tremendous, covering Belgian style abbey ales, English stouts and ales, German lagers and on and on. Farm ales are particularly big now, using ingredients grown on the farm where the beer is made. I would much rather drink a good microbrew from somewhere nearby than almost any import, and the better ones are, in my opinion, equal to or better than what you get in the country of origin.
 
Frank, I think you grossly underestimate American beer in this day and age. Sure, the product of the large national companies (multinational to be exact, since many are now actually owned by foreign corporations) are dreck. But every city and even small town in the US now has local breweries, often many which make terrific products that win competitions all over the world. Moreover, the variety is tremendous, covering Belgian style abbey ales, English stouts and ales, German lagers and on and on. Farm ales are particularly big now, using ingredients grown on the farm where the beer is made. I would much rather drink a good microbrew from somewhere nearby than almost any import, and the better ones are, in my opinion, equal to or better than what you get in the country of origin.

I wondered whether to reply to Frank's question with a similar comment, but since we only get a very few APAs and similar in UK, (which I much admire) and havn't visited US since the '90s (where I was introduced to SF's Steam? Ale) I hoped the baton would be picked up there---------I had a feeling windar knew his ale from his beer.
 
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