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Hi everyone - Just wanted to see if anybody else had any thoughts similar to mine on this topic, and if we might come up with some creative solutions. We all like to look at naked women, right? But for me, after a while, the impact of the nudity really diminishes. I get numb to it. A naked woman becomes a thing, separated from a WOMAN (clothed or not). (Does that make any sense?) And while of course many women are not ashamed to be naked, for me, the idea that the woman I'm looking at wants to wear clothes, and is mortified to be exposed, is very powerful. If I'm seeing tons and tons of naked women, somehow I almost forget about clothes, and that idea of humiliation is diminished. Anybody else feel this way?

Now for solutions. :) Here's what I've thought of. Hopefully we can think of more. 1) Series where the woman starts with clothes, then loses them. To me, the clothes can be elegant, but should be fairly modest/conservative so that when she loses them, we feel like she did not want to expose her body even a little. 2) Facial expressions and body language showing humiliation/embarrassment. Personally, I'd probably rather see a girl straining in embarrassment to cover her intimate parts than one who's spread out where everything is visible. 3) Contexts (e.g. Crowds) that emphasize how publicly she's exposed.

What are your thoughts?
 
Agree about the loss of impact from constant nudity.

Pleasure Slaves: should wear filmy "harem style" clothing, cover everything but hide nothing.

Working Slaves: a coarse cloth tied round waist.

Prisoners: stripped down to knickers/panties/equivalent only, with threat of removal if misbehave.

Condemned: some filthy blood-stained rags from someone else, only removed for death (nails, axe or noose).

Let's have a female pov. Is a filthy rag, or your own dirty panties, more humiliating than total nudity?
 
i agree the idea of a women having to remove her clothes an expose her body is a turn on!!! seeing her expression of shame has she tries to cover up an then is bound in some manner exposing her body to others is something special. then watch her shame has others play with her naked body . as the knowledge she can do nothing becomes more then she can stand.
 
Hi everyone - Just wanted to see if anybody else had any thoughts similar to mine on this topic, and if we might come up with some creative solutions. We all like to look at naked women, right? But for me, after a while, the impact of the nudity really diminishes. I get numb to it. A naked woman becomes a thing, separated from a WOMAN (clothed or not). (Does that make any sense?) And while of course many women are not ashamed to be naked, for me, the idea that the woman I'm looking at wants to wear clothes, and is mortified to be exposed, is very powerful. If I'm seeing tons and tons of naked women, somehow I almost forget about clothes, and that idea of humiliation is diminished. Anybody else feel this way?

Now for solutions. :) Here's what I've thought of. Hopefully we can think of more. 1) Series where the woman starts with clothes, then loses them. To me, the clothes can be elegant, but should be fairly modest/conservative so that when she loses them, we feel like she did not want to expose her body even a little. 2) Facial expressions and body language showing humiliation/embarrassment. Personally, I'd probably rather see a girl straining in embarrassment to cover her intimate parts than one who's spread out where everything is visible. 3) Contexts (e.g. Crowds) that emphasize how publicly she's exposed.

What are your thoughts?

Indeed, stripping her is, to me, an important part of the process. Sadly, it is one that is difficult to depict using computer art. :(
 
For me, the kinds of clothing oldslave's suggested are exciting to wear, or imagine wearing,
I much prefer the idea of progressive stripping, in stages, down to ultimate nudity -
e.g. if I'm to be crucified, only taking off - or having tugged off - my last rag of a loincloth
immediately before I lie down to be nailed.
In my more elaborate fantasies like IPCG, the scanty clothing worn by the captive girls -
beginning with our own underwear, then various styles, colours and (small) quantities of slave-clothes,
signal the progressive stages in our degradation - down to the final status of 'condemned'.
As you say Juan, not all of us women feel ashamed of our bodies,
if I lived in a warmer climate I wouldn't feel much problem with going around nude,
it's a pity it's such a taboo in most societies. But I like clothes, as you say,
we can change them as often as we like, our bodies, even if they're good-looking,
stay boringly the same :D
 
I agree to some extent - the nudity is enhanced by context, especially where it is unexpected, or shameful. This is why we have threads like

http://www.cruxforums.com/xf/threads/nude-out-of-place.4875/

and the new

http://www.cruxforums.com/xf/threads/enf-embarrassed-nude-female.5990/

In terms of the themes of crux and similar punishments on this forum, this is a big part of the attraction for many people, the shamed and exposed victim.

Also, sometimes scanty underwear and unshaved genitals feel more naked and exposed than the full naked and shaved deal.

I've just seen Art's latest over here
http://www.cruxforums.com/xf/threads/crux.4657/page-5#post-305509
A really nice mix of covered and uncovered victims, teasing and revealing.

Or this old one of mine. Is she naked, or covered? What is revealed, what left to the imagination?
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Being topless in a public place makes me feel a little self-conscious, but I have done that on beaches and found I was ok with it. But in my fantasies, like Eul, the gradual loss of my clothing ... being rudely stripped in front of others ... is an integral part of the mounting excitement, and the loss of the very last piece, whether it's a loincloth, dirty rag, bikini bottom or panties, is the ultimate moment in a sequence of progressive humiliation/degradation leading to whatever torture or execution awaits me.
 
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Hi everyone - Just wanted to see if anybody else had any thoughts similar to mine on this topic, and if we might come up with some creative solutions. We all like to look at naked women, right? But for me, after a while, the impact of the nudity really diminishes. I get numb to it. A naked woman becomes a thing, separated from a WOMAN (clothed or not). (Does that make any sense?) And while of course many women are not ashamed to be naked, for me, the idea that the woman I'm looking at wants to wear clothes, and is mortified to be exposed, is very powerful. If I'm seeing tons and tons of naked women, somehow I almost forget about clothes, and that idea of humiliation is diminished. Anybody else feel this way?

Now for solutions. :) Here's what I've thought of. Hopefully we can think of more. 1) Series where the woman starts with clothes, then loses them. To me, the clothes can be elegant, but should be fairly modest/conservative so that when she loses them, we feel like she did not want to expose her body even a little. 2) Facial expressions and body language showing humiliation/embarrassment. Personally, I'd probably rather see a girl straining in embarrassment to cover her intimate parts than one who's spread out where everything is visible. 3) Contexts (e.g. Crowds) that emphasize how publicly she's exposed.

I think, the numbness about nudity is about ‘type casting’. Too much pictorial representations focus on an ideal type of bodily beauty. At the end, you always see the same ‘perfect’ woman, what becomes boring at the end. Bodily variation is the solution. Perfectionism kills excitement. One needs the immense variation of natural body shapes to keep excited.

About your solutions, I think ‘context’ is the most important one, together with ‘status’, the social position of the lead characters of a fantasy. It is not just undressing, it is also falling down – and resisting it.
 
In this kind of fantasy, total nudity --be it for women or men -- is almost required at some point. It depends on the story. If, say, you're writing about a young woman arrested or captured and thrown into a dungeon before interrogation, stripping her of all clothing is a classic way to break her down more quickly. It doesn't have to be right away, but she does have to be naked for her big death scene. I can't imagine myself on a cross where I'm still clothed is some way. Yet it presents an interesting angle. Could a good writer seize our attention with a woman clothed for her crucifixion? I am certain it could be written. Maybe the clothing drops away as she struggles?

Some of Barb's more involved historical-type stories do not have nudity right from the beginning, but it is present at key points.

It's a delicious fantasy to think of myself in professional office wear and high heels suddenly thrust into a situation where I'm humiliated by exposure but not necessarily nude -- at least not yet. Being stripped naked can be a slow process as the story builds to a conclusion.

In most scenes where women are being led off to crucifixion, they are generally totally nude. Nothing at all wrong with that! By that time they are condemned and stripping them of all clothing reinforces their condemnation. It kind of makes sense too if they were whipped and beaten beforehand. Why give them their clothes back? Yet, the idea of marching to my execution clothed and only stripped just before crucifixion is highly enticing. Being enticed to strip oneself or being forcibly stripped just before being executed is a very intense moment!

I'm meandering around here, but it seems to me that nudity is an essential part of this kink.
 
To see always the same things (I speak in general, not only about nudity) obviously brings a weariness ...
This fact established, I think that to change is needing , in fact ...
When the artists are showing crucifixions, for example, the could sometimes use of naked women, sometimes to reintroduce some loincloth ; a loincloth can also be sexy , it depends how it's wearing ...
In my Calvaries, I like, from times to times, to show me (Messaline) with a dirty loincloth : a dirty'one is exciting ... I dont know why but I like ...;)

Anjou 2.JPG
By the past, N8Dream made a crucified Messa that I like too ...

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In fact, I think that it's what which is hidden that is the most attractive ...:rolleyes:
 
It's a delicious fantasy to think of myself in professional office wear and high heels suddenly thrust into a situation where I'm humiliated by exposure but not necessarily nude -- at least not yet. Being stripped naked can be a slow process as the story builds to a conclusion.

I find that the most interesting situation of all, precisely because the ordinary things of our daily lives suddenly take a turn for the unusual. I really enjoyed writing a story with just such a scenario, and I hope many of you enjoyed reading it http://www.cruxforums.com/xf/threads/budget-busting-barb.5911/
 
Hum, I could add that in cinema, you often can see women wearing loincloth (even more;)) and I find that more erotic
than nude ...
It's generally the difference between porno and eroticism ...
I ptefer of course eroticism ...:rolleyes:
 

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Agree about the loss of impact from constant nudity.

Pleasure Slaves: should wear filmy "harem style" clothing, cover everything but hide nothing.

Working Slaves: a coarse cloth tied round waist.

Prisoners: stripped down to knickers/panties/equivalent only, with threat of removal if misbehave.

Condemned: some filthy blood-stained rags from someone else, only removed for death (nails, axe or noose).

Let's have a female pov. Is a filthy rag, or your own dirty panties, more humiliating than total nudity?
Filthy rag for me! A skimpy one, of course.
 
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