Repertor
Artifex Imaginum
Outside: "Daddy, is this the red light district?"
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Loxuru
Graf von Kreuzigung
Nice drawing, Repertor!
That happens when you question the views of The Great Leader!
fat slave girl
Regina Servorum
Like this, maybe?
Although soaked in piss, shit, blood, sweat and maybe the odd tear, obviously...
"No son, it's just as I always said, a bank run by, with and for women
would always have too much liquidity, never rock-hard, sooner or later
they'd to have to strip off their hedge-funds and expose themselves to the market."
Loxuru
Graf von Kreuzigung
In other terms : they made themselves suspicious by giving fair interest rates, by their sound financial basis, by correct tax paying, by their empathic human resource policy, by not paying excessive wages and bonuses to their managers, by investing in environmental friendly and deontological projects only, by staying out of junk bonds,….
malins
Stumbling Seeker
some thoughts ...
It's all about context; nudity when voluntary could be anything from intimate, to thoughtlessly natural - but shameful when forced, even more so when in exposed in public... I'd say it would be even more intense if I'm ordered, and made to strip myself, than have my clothing torn off.
...but the people who've conspired to punish Isabel can't get away with absolutely anything and know they might damage their legitimacy and authority if they make all too gross of a spectacle. And they're trying to feel out how far they can go as the crowd rages.
A lot of fantasies will have absolute power in them, where the victim is subject to any whim of the tormentors (and that can be exciting
and the executioners know no limits and need fear no repercussions. Obviously in a story of total power and merciless execution it would seem out of place to spare the victims from the humiliation of nudity; it could only happen if there's a reason within the executioner's culture to avoid it, that has nothing to do with mercy (i.e. the public exposure of someone's genitals is considered more polluting to the viewers, than it's considered punishing for the victim)
But it can sometimes make for more unpredictable developments in a game of power and submission if it happens with a kind of implicit negotiation going on.
In the extreme that might be me trading in the last thing I own - the promise of my consent, me being an obedient victim - against a promise of avoiding some other humiliation I'm most afraid of (I would be aware that promise could be broken).
But it all might be more subtle too, and that has its appeal as well.
On the other hand,
Barb's character might be negotiating with herself, using the cover of coercion as a way to give into her desires...
It's all about context; nudity when voluntary could be anything from intimate, to thoughtlessly natural - but shameful when forced, even more so when in exposed in public... I'd say it would be even more intense if I'm ordered, and made to strip myself, than have my clothing torn off.
No crux, but ... in this story by King Diocletian, http://www.cruxforums.com/xf/threads/a-political-act.5948/ we experience the very intense humiliation of Isabel's character with her exposure ... even though she's 'only' topless and not fully nude, and for most of the time can still cover her chest. That's context too, because both the victim and her tormentors are convincingly shown in their social environment. It's hard to imagine how she could continue to socially exist there...
...but the people who've conspired to punish Isabel can't get away with absolutely anything and know they might damage their legitimacy and authority if they make all too gross of a spectacle. And they're trying to feel out how far they can go as the crowd rages.
A lot of fantasies will have absolute power in them, where the victim is subject to any whim of the tormentors (and that can be exciting
and the executioners know no limits and need fear no repercussions. Obviously in a story of total power and merciless execution it would seem out of place to spare the victims from the humiliation of nudity; it could only happen if there's a reason within the executioner's culture to avoid it, that has nothing to do with mercy (i.e. the public exposure of someone's genitals is considered more polluting to the viewers, than it's considered punishing for the victim)But it can sometimes make for more unpredictable developments in a game of power and submission if it happens with a kind of implicit negotiation going on.
In the extreme that might be me trading in the last thing I own - the promise of my consent, me being an obedient victim - against a promise of avoiding some other humiliation I'm most afraid of (I would be aware that promise could be broken).
But it all might be more subtle too, and that has its appeal as well.
Here, on one level we could say Barb's character bargains with Windar's and trades in the humiliation of nudity and punishment, in a private setting, remaining secret, to avoid the greater disaster of 'that mess ending up entirely at her doorstep' and getting into trouble in full public, although none of that would involve nudity, or what followed
On the other hand,Barb's character might be negotiating with herself, using the cover of coercion as a way to give into her desires...
A chivalrous notion but it's not how things tend to work out...
windar
Teller of Tales
Here, on one level we could say Barb's character bargains with Windar's and trades in the humiliation of nudity and punishment, in a private setting, remaining secret, to avoid the greater disaster of 'that mess ending up entirely at her doorstep' and getting into trouble in full public, although none of that would involve nudity, or what followed
Barb's character might be negotiating with herself, using the cover of coercion as a way to give into her desires.
Sounds very plausible to me
Yeah, Barb can be complicated
That's what I keep telling him
messaline
Crucified Amazon
messaline
Crucified Amazon
Hum, I think that I'm starting to better understand... I always have some difficulties to understand this kind of conversation in English ...
malins
Stumbling Seeker
'naked short',
that's actually a term, and on occasion it's been known to go wrong badly...
windar
Teller of Tales
Yes, though rarely enforced. A legal short requires you to actually borrow the shares before you sell them. Naked is when you don't. So cover up folks...
fat slave girl
Regina Servorum
Of course, no-one did skimpy primitive clothing better than the wonderful Rachel Welsh...
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messaline
Crucified Amazon
But in her situation, I think that she was yet obliged to stay a minimum clothed ... It was in the 60ths ? around ?
fat slave girl
Regina Servorum
Late sixties, I think.
Loxuru
Graf von Kreuzigung
"One million years BC" British movie, 1966.
Mid-sixties.
Featured dinosaurs, actually extinct 65 million years BC
windar
Teller of Tales
Here are some alternative facts that say otherwise my friend http://www.icr.org/men-dinosaurs"One million years BC" British movie, 1966.
Mid-sixties.
Featured dinosaurs, actually extinct 65 million years BC