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Passion Of A Goddess

Discussion in 'Crucified Women' started by Favicon, Jan 22, 2012.

  1. Favicon Condemned

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    Hello, does anyone have a subscription to Passion of a Goddess? If so, could somebody send me a couple videos? My account has never worked well.

    Thanks.
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  3. Fantasmo Executioner

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    Sorry, to say, but that 's the lamest story I have ever heard.
    If your account didn't work well, the site owners sure could help... :D :D :D
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    It is forbidden to discuss the fraudulent access to pay sites.
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    If you can't pay,you can't play......!! "Simples" !!
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    If you do not pay the content creators, it will be impossible to create a new photo and video.
    So, if you steal content, then you will not get anything new and interesting for you.
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  7. Emiliano Maraldi Condemned

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    give me the email that I send them to you with a jumbo mail
    Mu mail: XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

    Please do not pirate POAG films.
    Melissa
  8. Ducans Assistant executioner

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    Everyone must be paid for his work.
    In all sectors, commercial or artistic...

    Please everyone think at that, before pirating.:(
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    While I am in agreement with you, the reason for this great piracy wave lies in ridiculous profits that the mainstream industry is making.
    It is just a bad joke that you can make many millions just with one good song. This is out of proportion, meaning "music is too expensive".
    Same goes for videos in general (Hollywood).

    The ones who are really suffering from piracy are the small ones.
    The large ones get less profit (I still can sleep well with that fact in mind) but the small ones (and any contributor in the Crux scene is small) simply can't cover their costs any more.

    On the other hand, let's not forget this, a certain free availability and distribution is important for marketing reasons.
    People are finding Cruxdreams through images with the copyright mark on it.

    Imagemaker, is it safe to say that images with "cruxdreams.com" on them are from your "free" site and can be distributed, while member pics don't have this on it?
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    Yes, it is desirable, if you want to show a photo or video from cruxdreams.com, need a copyright on the content.
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    Just to clarify, I don't want to show, but to be able to distinguish between what has been put into public domain by cruxdreams and what not.
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    If the photo is copyright, it may be freely distributed.
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    This is a point that I do not get. There is piracy because people don't want to pay for these services. Is it your problem that people are making a lot of profit because the same people want the same pic/video/song/book/software? If you think that the profit is insane, just don't get the service.
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    Well, call it "reasonable profit".
    At a certain point profits are just getting ridiculous and people are not ready to pay THAT price, seeing well what kind of profits are being made.
    The huge earnings are only possible because of electronic global distribution.
    If there WAS a free market, goods would get cheaper under competition because nobody needs to earn those ridiculous amounts.
    Mass products would be very cheap, "hand made" products more expensive.

    But ther is no free market in mainstream music and movies (where it could be!).

    Why would you pay the guy who is fixing the heating of your house in winter time a few $ per hour (and think it is expensive) just because you cannot electronically multiply his work while you happily pay a crack smoking rapper a five or more digit figure per hour of work?
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  15. willowfall Assistant executioner

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    A product is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it. So people bitch that movies, CDs, songs, whatever cost too much yet people keep buying them so obviously they aren't.

    We complain atheletes make too much, but we keep watching the sport and buying the stuff.

    We complain that movie stars make too much but we keep buying their movies and following their every move.

    We complain politicians make (and spend) too much but every election we send the same people back into office.

    So who are the fools? The people we pay to do all these things or us for forking out the cash?

    And by the way, I don't know where you live but electricians and plumbers make more per hour than I do and I manage mainframe recovery for a large fortune 500 corporation.

    All that aside, Ramon puts a lot of effort into his work and has probably shelled out some pretty good bucks to produce it. He occasionally share snippets of that work with us (obviously trying to entice us to buy it, where else is he going to advertise? A highway billboard?).

    I think it would be poor form for any of us to help someone pirate his work.

    I don't listen to rap music so I'm not paying them anything. And there is plenty of free music available it is called RADIO. Kinda quaint and old fashioned but you know, it IS the same music.

    kisses

    willowfall
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  16. Fantasmo Executioner

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    Well, what shall I say, missed my point on three counts? ;) (I am NOT defending piracy!)

    #1: That's exactly why people are copying: They are not ready to pay that much. This whole piracy "industry" would not exist without "main stream" products being over-priced.
    If one could download trailers for free and get (Hollywood) videos at reasonable cost it would be much smaller and hard to find.
    It would be more or less limited to those for whom it is a sport to pirate, for "breaking the lock", not for the content.

    #2: I am living in a place where for sure it is most expensive, factors more expensive than in the US! (Switzerland).

    #3: Ramon / Cruxdreams etc. are "small fish". This is what I am referring to as "hand-work". Those really are suffering from every single unsold copy.
    On the other hand: Look at this forum: Consider about every second image that is posted here as "stolen"...

    Imagine Doucans would want to set up a page to live from her art?! It never would work if it is based on "pay per image" (because 5 mins later you can download her pics from other places for free), it only can work if people "donate" after, because they like what they have seen.
    I know, this is science fiction in the anonymous realms of the internet.
    But this is what I am doing. I have quite a few times downloaded movies and later bought them because I felt they are worth it.
    I don't have a solution so far... (but am looking for ideas).
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  17. Ducans Assistant executioner

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    right!!!!
    ]PS: Lucky I do it for free, just because I like to do it and have some comments of onlookers without my person itself is object of critic, :)[/quote]
  18. Fantasmo Executioner

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    There is an other aspect: "Not for free" doesn't necessarily mean "no fun".
    We (as consumers) like to see new art.
    Todays business world however more and more is absorbing us so much that just no energy is left for "leisure".
    I see it with me, I still have not found the time to pick up my drawing again, and I will not for another 2-3 months :(
    Of course I could work less (say 80%), and dedicate the 20% to creativity, providing an image or two every week.
    But who does cover those missing 20% income?
    That's where payment is getting back to it's initial meaning: It's not profit, it just is "covering costs for creating what we all love".
    So, while for Hollywood "stolen copies" just means ""only" insane instead of ridiculous profit", it is a question of being / not beeing for the small ones.
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    On the flip side I have had stories pirated by other people claiming that they actually wrote them. Sometimes they don't even bother to change a word, just their name for mine and I am not asking of a penny for anything.

    When I write something and someone steals it to claim as their own I feel violated, I am not getting credit for what I have created. It sort of like having sex with someone and they call you by their exs-name.

    Copy it spread it around post it where ever you like just don't claim credit for it.

    Creating something is a part of you, you put yourself into what you are creating when someone steals it from you especially when you are trying to at least cover your costs that's just unfair.

    What if the company you worked for "stole" your labor and didn't pay you for the work you had put in? You'd be the first one in line at the labor board to file a complaint.

    Do entertainment people make an obscene (well the top end ones) amount of money? They sure do. I've got news for you kids, so does each and everyone of us compared to someone who lives for example in Nigeria (average per capita income $2 a DAY). You can always point to someone and scream unfair, just as someone can point at you and yell unfair.

    It boils down to don't do to others what you'd not want done to you. And don't try to use a 'justification' to explain away your mis-deeds.

    kisses

    willowfall
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    Kim Novak recently blasted the movie (The Artist) I agree with her.
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    Just to make sure (again) that I am understood correctly:
    I didn't try to justify anything (-> there is nothing to justify, pirated is pirated), I did make the point that what may be an annoyance ("only") for the big ones is death to the "small art" scene and I did reason about what is one of the sources of the problem.

    And yes, stealing credits is the worst form.
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