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malins

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If you haven't talked to her, is it because the "Master" is not permitting that? If so, that's a huge red flag.
Remember abusers are not only physical they exert a psychological hold over the abused. They get the sub to believe that they 'deserve' what is happening to them, that somehow the sub "causes" the master to be harsh.
you have to be smart enough to know your limits and to be strong enough to draw and hold the line.
But also too as the outside party you have to be very careful to not impose your morals on top of their relationship
+1

very very wise and true words.

BDSM can be a realization of your needs and a liberation and so finding to your own strength ... BUT there are also people out there who know how to bend it all into something destructive, diminishing and demeaning. Physically as well as psychologically. They are 'Masters of deception' and might outwardly carry the mask of "safe and sane" and sometimes they even succeed in being covered and defended by the community, and one of the hallmarks of long-term abuse in any setting is getting the victim to believe they deserve it / bring it about.
 

messaline

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My Mistress and I have a consensual relationship where under the appropriate circumstances she treats me like her slave and under others she treats me like a partner she loves (which she does).

Me too, though that she's not my "Mistress" in current live , only in BDSM ; anyway, she's my lover girl in fact and never she could abuse of some situations ...
That is the problem with some women who desire too much to practice BDSM and who give herselves to any Master ( or so-called ) and who're in fact only sadistic men only searching the satisfaction of their own pleasure ...
Us, who are practising BDSM in sane conditions, have always the responsibility to tell that , even if it could appear like reiterations ...
 

windar

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While this is an interesting and important discussion, I would respectfully say that it would be better on a thread of its own, rather than here, which is about pictures depicting the fictional abuse of fictional slaves and in which no real persons are harmed. Thanks.
 

messaline

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...it would be better on a thread of its own...
In France, we say : "créer une commission pour étudier un problème équivaut à enterrer ce problème !" ( to create a council to study a problem is like to bury this problem !)
I'm afraid that it could be the same in this case ; if there is a special thread concerning this discussion, may be only the "specialists" of BDSM could participate ...
It's certainly better to interfere in these kinds of threads where we'll find many people coming to have some ideas , some advices (good but also bad) for the BDSM'practice ...
So, they can have a concrete advice about what they could do or not do ...
 
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While this is an interesting and important discussion, I would respectfully say that it would be better on a thread of its own, rather than here, which is about pictures depicting the fictional abuse of fictional slaves and in which no real persons are harmed. Thanks.
Potentially true but as Messaline points out it would also get buried because only those of us who practice safe BDSM would get involved.

I suppose you have seen threads by people who (claim) they REALLY want to be crucified (bad idea) and of course many of the people come here to have the pictures feed their fantasies. And many times that is because they have an interest if not the opportunity for turning those fantasies in to something a wee bit more substantial.

When we 'hijack' a thread (for just a short while, come on admit it) we have an opportunity to give some guidance to those who wish to pursue their fantasies and that is an important conversation for them to have, even if they only brush up against it.

I love my Mistress but I was once incredibly, madly in love with a much older gentleman, and that is what he is a gentleman. He was not interested in BDSM but I would have done anything he asked of me. He knew of my interest and suppose for a second that he hadn't been a gentleman and been a sadist instead.

I could have been in a world of trouble.

The few moments we take here may keep someone from making a serious (even deadly) mistake.

It also helps our COMMUNITY because we are very misunderstood. Just look at the news stories, everyday you read about some sadist "living out their fantasies" and doing horrible, criminal things. That's usually the only press we get. If by being honest and open, with both ourselves and our fellow community members, every opportunity we get, maybe someday the public will realize we aren't perverts, just different.

kisses

willowfall
 
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Potentially true but as Messaline points out it would also get buried because only those of us who practice safe BDSM would get involved.

I suppose you have seen threads by people who (claim) they REALLY want to be crucified (bad idea) and of course many of the people come here to have the pictures feed their fantasies. And many times that is because they have an interest if not the opportunity for turning those fantasies in to something a wee bit more substantial.

When we 'hijack' a thread (for just a short while, come on admit it) we have an opportunity to give some guidance to those who wish to pursue their fantasies and that is an important conversation for them to have, even if they only brush up against it.

I love my Mistress but I was once incredibly, madly in love with a much older gentleman, and that is what he is a gentleman. He was not interested in BDSM but I would have done anything he asked of me. He knew of my interest and suppose for a second that he hadn't been a gentleman and been a sadist instead.

I could have been in a world of trouble.

The few moments we take here may keep someone from making a serious (even deadly) mistake.

It also helps our COMMUNITY because we are very misunderstood. Just look at the news stories, everyday you read about some sadist "living out their fantasies" and doing horrible, criminal things. That's usually the only press we get. If by being honest and open, with both ourselves and our fellow community members, every opportunity we get, maybe someday the public will realize we aren't perverts, just different.

kisses

willowfall
A friend of mine is into this, and works with a man who does it for fun every now and then. I have known her ever since were were in middle school, but I don't know him at all. I'm thinking about trying a safe crux and seeing how it goes. I know it will hurt after a while, and I don't know how long I will be able to stay on a cross before they let me down from it, but I'm willing to try it at least once. Has anyone here ever done it? Pm me if I going too far off topic, as I do not want to cause trouble for anyone.
 

windar

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Many of you enjoyed the jucundus pics I posted aa couple of weeks ago. Here is his latest. Two sisters have rebelled against the Queen and been captured and thrown into her dungeon. She has ordered her knight, who is, shall we say, rather large, to "take care of them". He has already done that with the sister in the background who looks quite spent, and now she wants him to take care of the other sister. Since she was the one who actually tried to assassinate the Queen, she has ordered him to enter by the back door, which he seems quite prepared to do...
mountaineering.jpg
 

Eulalia

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Yeah, it's Roman and they're no doubt going to crucify her later, but as long as I can skip out on that part, I can enjoy the whipping. By frog View attachment 595151
That's a spectacular whipping scene I've not seen before - and I don't think I've come across 'frog' -
but it reminds me of montycasino's classic, 'Scourged':

scourged_by_montycasino-d7r3t4y.jpg

Indeed, it's clearly a manip of 'Scourged', but a powerful one!​
 

windar

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That's a spectacular whipping scene I've not seen before - and I don't think I've come across 'frog' -
but it reminds me of montycasino's classic, 'Scourged':

View attachment 595315

Indeed, it's clearly a manip of 'Scourged', but a powerful one!​
"frog" posts on the GIMP and he created it a couple of days ago for Ralphus' birthday (the flogger on the right is Ralphus). To be honest, I'm not sure which one I like better.
 
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