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The same in Europe :

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laskey,_Jaggard_and_Brown_v_United_Kingdom

In many European countries, acts of consensual BDSM are punishable by law, since the protection of a person's body integrity is judged higher than privacy considerations. It can lead here also to prosecutions, without prior complaint by one of the parties involved.
It seems, we German are the lucky ones :)
Basically bodily harm with consent of the injured is only prosecutable if the content contravened the public morals.
In 2004 the highest criminal court (BGH) ruled, that acts of BDSM are only than prosecutable if the injury is definite life-endangering. The mindset of the public concerning BDSM doesn´t matter (Urteil vom 26. Mai 2004 - 2 StR 505/03).
 
This discussion has been interesting, but I would like to point something out: the decision to ban "adult" images - which now includes art studies and anatomy - was not ordered by any agency of any government. The decision was made by Verizon Communications which acquired Tumblr when it bought Yahoo in 2017 which had bought Tumblr in 2013. The ban was triggered by Apple dropping the Tumblr app due to alleged child porn images. This was entirely a business decision and I believe, in the end, a bad one. The resulting bad publicity and loss of millions of accounts will ultimately lead to the demise of Tumblr.

No it is not being made because of a government decision.

It is a preemptive move by Verizon (and well with in their rights) to AVOID government action. Government does not need to actually act, the perception that government might act is enough to make a company (or organization) react.

The government decision to go after Backpage.com was in effect a warning against all organizations that support 'undesirable' activities.

Trumblr may (or may not) go under due to this decision, but in the big scheme of thing Trumblr's revenue is a drop in the bucket called Verizon. They have hundreds of millions of dollars in government contracts to protect, to say nothing of suffering reputational damage to the brand name.

This is where things become hazy, and today's social media environment will easily get you convicted without a shred of evidence against you. A multi-billion dollar company like Verizon is not concerned with individual freedoms as long as the money rolls in. That is not their job, their job is to make their shareholders wealthy.

The problem is, individuals do NOT have the power to move the government in one direction or another. Minorities (and we are a minority) do not. Government can only be moved by the people who are paying the politicians (by financially supporting their campaigns).

So Verizon says screw it, it isn't worth the money to us. Other large companies follow suit. And then when the government wants something else they just push the economic pressure button. Any government is little more than an armed force with a wide variety of weapons at their disposal to coerce the population. You can control with out using bullets.

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That's the problem. In some jurisdictions in the US it is mandated that the police file a claim if they think you are being abused. You can claim you aren't but they will file anyway and then the local prosecutor decides whether or not to file charges.
In France, it's not the same : you need of a private claim to open an investigation going to a lawsuit ...or not ...
 
In France, it's not the same : you need of a private claim to open an investigation going to a lawsuit ...or not ...

The French have always been more tolerant of sex than America. In fact, despite the fact that most American's think of European governments as quasi-socialist, I find my European friends much more tolerant and respectful of people's private lives. And they also seem to take a hardline on personal responsibility, as in, you screwed up, you live with it.

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The French have always been more tolerant of sex than America. In fact, despite the fact that most American's think of European governments as quasi-socialist, I find my European friends much more tolerant and respectful of people's private lives. And they also seem to take a hardline on personal responsibility, as in, you screwed up, you live with it.

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Under the guise of “expression of offence or hatred” the American Left has transformed Liberalism into Puritanism.

Your view of Europe is very much on target. Socialism is a minor aspect of the European model. Liberalism is the much broader under structure.
 
The French have always been more tolerant of sex than America. In fact, despite the fact that most American's think of European governments as quasi-socialist, I find my European friends much more tolerant and respectful of people's private lives. And they also seem to take a hardline on personal responsibility, as in, you screwed up, you live with it.

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willowfall

We're coming, for a part at least, from the Latin / Roman culture : it explains ...:D
 
More of this about that: from honedperfection.tumblr.com
December 17th - a rescue plan
Some good news, I’ve been talking to two developers now and got them working together, we just had a meeting with the guys behind an existing large (millions of users) site similar to Tumblr, with a vibrant and open-minded community, and more importantly, it has open-minded owners who believe in free speech. They think we can get something done here to rescue the whole community.

I’m not allowed to reveal the site name yet. I can tell you it’s mainstream, open to everyone, open-minded and welcoming. (It’s not WordPress or any site owned by Facebook or Twitter. It’s not Pillowfort, that’s in closed beta. It’s not Ello, that’s mainly for artists. It’s not kinkspace or fetlife, those are too specialist. It’s not jux, that seems to be closed. It’s not Soup, that seems still in development and too small.)

One of the reasons for delaying the announcement for next few days is they don’t want a “land grab” where people take the names of current popular Tumblr users over there (cyber squatting). So they are looking at ways for existing Tumblr users to keep the same names on the new site.

More info over the days to come.

The plan is, broadly:

1. By December 9th, announcement of the new site and how to secure your username there

2. By December 10th, an online tool for bloggers to copy their existing content to the new site automatically, with the same tags and captions.

3. Bloggers will need to copy their content across between December 10th and December 17th if they want to use the automatic tool.

4. My understanding is that after December 17th there will be no public access to any “flagged” posts on Tumblr, but the original poster will still be able to see the flagged post (for a short time at least). Therefore, the original poster may still be able to manually download a post to their own PC or phone, after December 17th, and manually upload it to the other site. But if you have lots of posts that will take a long time, it will be better to use the automatic tool before December 17th.

Please understand that these dates are approximate and may change for technical or other reasons.

There may be a few rough edges or not so perfect looking site design on the transfer tool. Everyone is doing their best. The main goal here is to help as many people as possible preserve access to their content, in the short space of time Tumblr has allowed us, and preserve as much as possible of the Tumblr community spirit somewhere new.

The new site will cater for photo, GIF, text and html posts. It will not offer video and audio posts, due to cost reasons - maybe in future, but for now you will need to preserve video and audio content yourself in some other place.

If your Tumblr blog has a mixture of original content and reblogs, or all reblogs, all of that can be copied over to the new site. Reblogs will become “your” original content if nobody else posted them yet, otherwise they will be shown as reblogs. The devs are looking at ways to preserve attribution of reblogs back to the original Tumblr poster, if that person also moves to the new site.

Important: your Likes cannot be copied from Tumblr to the new site. You will have to go find the same posts again on the new site, and like them afresh.

(Similarly, existing reblog comments, asks, messages and other user interaction on Tumblr cannot be copied to the new site - that’s just too much to do, in the short time available.)

If you want to preserve any of your existing Liked posts on Tumblr, you will need to either: (1) download the post to your own PC, or: (2A) reblog it now to your own Tumblr blog, and then (2B) use the automatic tool, before December 17th, to move your whole Tumblr blog across to the new site.

If you have Liked a lot of posts here on Tumblr, the gridllr.com webapp should be able to help you do steps 1 and 2A quickly, I mean download or reblog.

(Someone complained to me today about the appearance of Gridllr on a phone. It’s best to use Gridllr on a PC, Mac or Tablet with a large screen.)

If you have liked a post here on Tumblr and the original poster decides to delete it, or even to delete their entire blog, some time before December 17th, then that post will be permanently lost. So if you want to be sure to preserve any of your Liked posts, you should best download or reblog as soon as possible. If it’s reblogged to your own blog it is safe from deletion, at least for next few days.

Obviously, you will lose access, after December 17th, to all past posts you have liked, if Tumblr has flagged them as NSFW. Again, the steps (1), or (2A) and (2B) covered above will be the only way to hold on to these posts.

This too will pass

Has this ever come true?
 
Has this ever come true?
As of Friday 14 DEC

dommmu, Thank you for asking.

Small update
Thank you for the many messages of encouragement we have received. It’s clear that the Tumblr community has an important role for so many people; my heart breaks at some of the things I have read.​
This is a quick update to let everyone know that the development of the transfer tool is going well. Further update on Monday, and I plan to post some details of how the transfer will work.​
Last week, I expected to be able to announce the new site already by now. There will be a small delay of 1-2 days while the tech guys get everything ready. I’ll post more info on Monday in the afternoon (EST). I apologise if it is frustrating waiting, but this has to be done right.​

In a technical world, it is easier to get into a project than it is to get out.
 
The BBC website had a story today (I think from the Guardian) that talked about how the Tumblr decision would adversely affect marginalized communities (DUH) and make then only feel more marginalized. Which is the opposite of what the progressive globalist community wants.

Well in reality mouths but doesn't mean.

Buried in the story was comments on how in many countries porn (of all types) is illegal and that companies are facing court actions and sanctions in those countries.

In effect the with countries suing in "international" courts and getting some pretty crazy rulings we could be headed to a world where the country with the most restrictive laws (say China or Iran) has a real shot at dictating what the rest of the world sees.

An American Historian by the name of Lukas [sic] said something to the effect in a book he wrote about the contest between Churchill and Hitler between the fall of France and the invasion of the USSR 'Requiring someone to conform to your ideas is more aggressive and oppressive than merely stealing their possessions.'

I expect in our lifetimes, as a marginalized community, it will become tougher on us rather than easier to be who we are.

Which is kind of ironic considering how tolerant we are of each other and others outside our community.

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willowfall
 
The BBC website had a story today (I think from the Guardian) that talked about how the Tumblr decision would adversely affect marginalized communities (DUH) and make then only feel more marginalized. Which is the opposite of what the progressive globalist community wants.

Well in reality mouths but doesn't mean.

Buried in the story was comments on how in many countries porn (of all types) is illegal and that companies are facing court actions and sanctions in those countries.

In effect the with countries suing in "international" courts and getting some pretty crazy rulings we could be headed to a world where the country with the most restrictive laws (say China or Iran) has a real shot at dictating what the rest of the world sees.

An American Historian by the name of Lukas [sic] said something to the effect in a book he wrote about the contest between Churchill and Hitler between the fall of France and the invasion of the USSR 'Requiring someone to conform to your ideas is more aggressive and oppressive than merely stealing their possessions.'

I expect in our lifetimes, as a marginalized community, it will become tougher on us rather than easier to be who we are.

Which is kind of ironic considering how tolerant we are of each other and others outside our community.

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willowfall
Scary thinking, but I am afraid too it could get that way.
There is something paradoxical : 'progressive globalist community' wishes more internationalisation. Including internationalisation of administration of justice. This could lead to a situation wherein countries with the most restrictive laws implement their view to the others.

Secondly because these countries with restrictive laws also could gain enough economical power to either buy or enforce their restrictive views to other countries and to companies.

Thirdly, because there is a trend (also an adverse side effect of globalisation), that governments, because of cost cuts, delegate public tasks to private companies, which are only bothered by shareholder values, rather than by civil rights and liberties.

Fourthly because communities like ours are an easy target, as they can be easily framed as 'sick' or 'pervert'. The majority of the population will not bother, or be relieved by such actions as Tumblr does (preferably, these people see us in jail, or crucified).
 
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Making the world safer thru software. One project is on schedule.

The rescue, not so close.
Thank you for the many messages of encouragement we have received. It’s clear that the Tumblr community has an important role for so many people; my heart breaks at some of the things I have read.This is a quick update to let everyone know that the development of the transfer tool is going well. Further update on Monday, and I plan to post some details of how the transfer will work.Last week, I expected to be able to announce the new site already by now. There will be a small delay of 1-2 days while the tech guys get everything ready. I’ll post more info on Monday in the afternoon (EST). I apologise if it is frustrating waiting, but this has to be done right.​

It is said in software development: The first 90% takes 90% of the time and effort planned. The remaining 10% also take 90%.
Been there, done that.
 
As a protest folks I suggest you all go in and delete your Tumblr accounts (I did). It won't change Tumblr's decision but if they lose, let's say, 30% of their accounts the next idiot company that decides to suppress us in the name of economics should know just how high the price is.

Sometimes you can get the numbers to work for you, you just have to show someone what the CORRECT set of numbers is.

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It trust the staff, but I do not know how the other users might react if they got a notification like "<Username> has reported your post for possible CP content" (if there even is such a notification).
We, the other members, do not get such posts. I do not make a habit of posting things that are against the rules, but I have made one or two mistakes. Each time, a mod has mentioned it and I agree that it should be taken down, but I do not get told who reported. That is not the important thing anyway - the important thing is to keep our standard.

Mostly, we operate as a community, a safe space to explore our fantasies. The rules are there to keep that safe space. A person who intentionally breaks the posting rules and does so without regard for the other users is not someone we necessarily want around. If someone were to suspect you for reporting them, and subjected you to any sort of abuse or intimidation, that person would also not likely be wanted around here either.
 
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