What better position than a woman who was crucified, so that she would at least relieve her pain on a cross? Was this the image?

[williams flamarion]

 

[williams flamarion]

 

[Althanie J]

The genius/horror of crucifixion is that their is no real position for someone crucified like this to fully relieve the pain. In this position the victim can't breath properly and will start to build up carbon dioxide in the lungs.
It looks like in the second image that the woman is sitting on her feet, which definitely helps, but still hurts. I know

 

[Eulalia]

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I think you're asking what position is best for a girl on a cross,
so that she can best cope with the pain - at least for a time?
Makar took great care of his models, I think they found that pose,
where they can hang for a while on their arms, then lift themselves up
and let their legs take more of their weight,
was one which allowed them most freedom to deal with the strain -
and to 'dance' nicely for the camera!
But I believe they only stayed up there for about 20 minutes at a time.

 

[Beate]

Hi,
hanging on the cross there is no position that is really a relaxation. That's not what the cross is for. Relief can only bring a few moments (minutes) when you can breathe deeply.
I think that was the main problem, that the exhalation didn't work anymore.
Consequently, nails through the heels would be a conditional way to bring some relief. At least until the legs are no longer involved.

 

[Althanie J]

Hi,
hanging on the cross there is no position that is really a relaxation. That's not what the cross is for. Relief can only bring a few moments (minutes) when you can breathe deeply.
I think that was the main problem, that the exhalation didn't work anymore.
Consequently, nails through the heels would be a conditional way to bring some relief. At least until the legs are no longer involved.

Nails where used for the sadistic effect, but the way crucifixion ultimately kills someone is when your arms are raised above your head your lungs and diaphragm become constricted. Because of this when a breath is taken not all of the CO2 in the lungs can be released upon exhale. Hencforth the victim suffocates slowly due to the CO2 buildup in the lungs reaching a fatal point.

 

[Apostate]

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I think you're asking what position is best for a girl on a cross,
so that she can best cope with the pain - at least for a time?
Makar took great care of his models, I think they found that pose,
where they can hang for a while on their arms, then lift themselves up
and let their legs take more of their weight,
was one which allowed them most freedom to deal with the strain -
and to 'dance' nicely for the camera!
But I believe they only stayed up there for about 20 minutes at a time.

Makar said he tried hanging from a cross like his models. And lasted about 30 seconds.

Because full suspension crux à la Makar hurts. Galya, Oxana, Mila and others didn’t need to act to project pain.

And then there was Inge, the one who when told it was time to come down asked, "Why?"

 

[Reed319]

it's allways a terrible contrast in Makar's crux ; between : *** on the one hand, the girls chosen who are pretty with their soft and maternal body's curves ; **** and on the other hand, the merciless of the wooden crux itself. Crux is hard, harsh, no compromise : whatever the position the slave will take...crux will provide to her pain, pain and still pain ! And the more the slave is exhausted, the more her body will fall on the cross which increases the difficulty to breath and the traction on her arms and shoulder. To try to find some relief for the lungs and diaphragm, the slave will have to count on her legs to stand, but her legs muscles in this position will become burning from lactic acid by the cells of the muscle. Indeed, it is unbearable whatever position on cross. And all the genius of Makar is to use beautiful women models who should not suffer, but on the contrary would get pleasure and orgasm in usual porn movies.

 

[Apostate]

it's allways a terrible contrast in Makar's crux ; between : *** on the one hand, the girls chosen who are pretty with their soft and maternal body's curves ; **** and on the other hand, the merciless of the wooden crux itself. Crux is hard, harsh, no compromise : whatever the position the slave will take...crux will provide to her pain, pain and still pain ! And the more the slave is exhausted, the more her body will fall on the cross which increases the difficulty to breath and the traction on her arms and shoulder. To try to find some relief for the lungs and diaphragm, the slave will have to count on her legs to stand, but her legs muscles in this position will become burning from lactic acid by the cells of the muscle. Indeed, it is unbearable whatever position on cross. And all the genius of Makar is to use beautiful women models who should not suffer, but on the contrary would get pleasure and orgasm in usual porn movies.

That pretty well sums up what a lot of crux addicts come for, fred.

Then there’s Markus' multiorgasmic girls squirting up a storm while nailed naked to crosses.

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I’ll wager nothing like this was or is possible. But the keyword describing the crux kink fantasy. Whatever gets you off, ladies and gentlemen.

 

[Aedile]

For those crucified in a the traditional manner, with feet fastened to the front of the stipes and arms/wrists tied or nailed in the standard V-shape, and without a sedile/cornu, footrest, or other support, one way to mitigate some of the suffering (ie. breathing difficulty) that comes from being stretched out on the cross is the ass-against-cross pose (demonstrated perfectly below).



If the victim can get the balance right, she can balance her body weight there and take some of the strain off her extremities and still be able to breathe. Trouble is, it doesn’t seem to be a position one can hold very long. In order to get the balance right, she has to lean the upper half of her body out away from the cross, which puts a lot of strain on the shoulders. I’ve seen a hypothesis that shoulder dislocations may have been fairly common in this style of crucifixion. Seems logical.

Add to that the whole “rough, scratchy wood against my naked ass” thing and the need to continue activating the quadriceps to maintain balance, and I doubt anyone could just plant themselves in that position for a significant stretch of time. Makar’s models would find this position during their dances but never seemed to stay long.

It’s still hot as hell, though.

 

[Apostate]

For those crucified in a the traditional manner, with feet fastened to the front of the stipes and arms/wrists tied or nailed in the standard V-shape, and without a sedile/cornu, footrest, or other support, one way to mitigate some of the suffering (ie. breathing difficulty) that comes from being stretched out on the cross is the ass-against-cross pose (demonstrated perfectly below).

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If the victim can get the balance right, she can balance her body weight there and take some of the strain off her extremities and still be able to breathe. Trouble is, it doesn’t seem to be a position one can hold very long. In order to get the balance right, she has to lean the upper half of her body out away from the cross, which puts a lot of strain on the shoulders. I’ve seen a hypothesis that shoulder dislocations may have been fairly common in this style of crucifixion. Seems logical.

Add to that the whole “rough, scratchy wood against my naked ass” thing and the need to continue activating the quadriceps to maintain balance, and I doubt anyone could just plant themselves in that position for a significant stretch of time. Makar’s models would find this position during their dances but never seemed to stay long.

It’s still hot as hell, though.

Several of Makar’s models

Yeah, Aedile. What you said.

 

[Aedile]

Lovely Oxana’s dance on the cross is beyond arousing, but she preferred to swing her hips out to the side and push her ass out behind the stipes. She was clearly trying to avoid contact between her back (and backside!) and the wood, and I don’t blame her. Might have wanted to avoid a bunch of scrapes and splinters suddenly showing up. As we’ve established, there’s no right or wrong way to hang on a cross




There was one lovely blonde, though, who got the pose right:

 

[Apostate]

As we’ve established, there’s no right or wrong way to hang on a cross

True. However there are some positions favored by many, by which I mean "me."

 

[Aedile]

True. However there some positions favored by many, by which I mean "me."

Oh, yes. I would put hanging low with legs spread wide #2 on my list. Which of the Greek Girls is #8, again?



And this one. Wow.

 

[redzen]

I think a woman nailed to a x cross attached to a spinning wheel, so the weight of the body would alternate with each rotation from two spikes to the other two, preventing the victim to suffocate. I don't know if it would be less painful, probably more, but definitely it would fun to watch

 

[Apostate]

Oh, yes. I would put hanging low with legs spread wide #2 on my list. Which of the Greek Girls is #8, again?

#8 is the Jastrow emulation of a Yusebby original, which inspired the story. In all versions they are, l-r, Adonia and Callia.

 

[Reed319]

True. However there are some positions favored by many, by which I mean "me."

the best is when the slave have no "seat" available : no wooden piece possible between the legs, and idem : no wooden piece for the feet. So, all the weight are for arms and legs. Pain could be at a climax for the slave. The very moment where slave surrenders and is like "pass away" is very interesting too : she no longer struggles, watch Alice for example at the end of the video : a last effort to stand on legs and then nothing more ; no more move. But even when no move...pain continues... But the slave has no more energy to express her suffering. All the suffering, all the pain is henceforth concentrated in her body and mind. For the audience, the show is over....but not yet for the slave : in the video of Alice, you can see a long moment after ALice "passed away". Alice is more beautiful than ever !

 

[Reed319]

Makar said he tried hanging from a cross like his models. And lasted about 30 seconds.

Because full suspension crux à la Makar hurts. Galya, Oxana, Mila and others didn’t need to act to project pain.

And then there was Inge, the one who when told it was time to come down asked, "Why?"

Yes it hurts terribly i think. I have lot of respect for these actress, because the pain is really horrific and they cope with courage. I remember Jenya on the cross : see her belly, she was pregnant some weeks before, and i guess all orgasm she had when impregnated...and later child delivery and finally to end on the cross !! What change in her life. Sometimes the slave have tears too, it's not a shame of course to cry when on the cross, too i remember the end of Jenya video as tears and screams she made whereas she has almost no breathing due to position. All these girls radiating a formidable beauty on the cross : the softness of their female bodies and the strength they have to bear this torture.....

 

[Apostate]

Yes it hurts terribly i think. I have lot of respect for these actress, because the pain is really horrific and they cope with courage. I remember Jenya on the cross : see her belly, she was pregnant some weeks before, and i guess all orgasm she had when impregnated...and later child delivery and finally to end on the cross !! What change in her life. Sometimes the slave have tears too, it's not a shame of course to cry when on the cross, too i remember the end of Jenya video as tears and screams she made whereas she has almost no breathing due to position. All these girls radiating a formidable beauty on the cross : the softness of their female bodies and the strength they have to bear this torture.....

Pretty well sums up what a lot of crux addicts come for, Fred.

 

[Reed319]

Yes it hurts terribly i think. I have lot of respect for these actress, because the pain is really horrific and they cope with courage. I remember Jenya on the cross : see her belly, she was pregnant some weeks before, and i guess all orgasm she had when impregnated...and later child delivery and finally to end on the cross !! What change in her life. Sometimes the slave have tears too, it's not a shame of course to cry when on the cross, too i remember the end of Jenya video as tears and screams she made whereas she has almost no breathing due to position. All these girls radiating a formidable beauty on the cross : the softness of their female bodies and the strength they have to bear this torture.....

Yes Apostate, you are right : no need to act. Feeling of pain is real, we can be sure at 100%. These context is interesting because in classical porn, we can't never be sure the actress doesn't simulate orgasm. Or even in BDSM with electricity, maybe this is acting because you can't check if the voltage is really applied ! But with Makar's crosses, no simulation possible : when the slave is nailed on the cross, pain is allways "au rendez vous " !!! and the wiever knows it and really enjoy such "no fake" show. Although in an other field, ElitePain is very convincing : i remember a video with a slave whipped, at around 100 hits, a little part of her back skin was snatched and therefore lot of blood came...and more over the highest scream of the slave as whipping was continued by master dr Lomp : here too, the pain was real, no trick....