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No worries, I understand the need and value of mitigating flamewars. I'll try not to add to them in the future!
AlexArts
Soul of Cinder
I find my inspiration in fight... with himActually, I'm smiling...
Long may I continue to do so...
But i will do my best and wait the next chapter of AC
Well, we all find it rather tedious.
If you want to pick fights with people, Alex, leave the members of Cruxforums out of it. And that includes SJ. I like his work, I like your work, I do not like sorting out your feud with him.
poem21045
Tribunus Plebis
Well, we all find it rather tedious.
If you want to pick fights with people, Alex, leave the members of Cruxforums out of it. And that includes SJ. I like his work, I like your work, I do not like sorting out your feud with him.
"People, I just want to say, you know, can we all JUST get along? Can we get along?"
--Rodney King
AlexArts
Soul of Cinder
All my hatred is focused on other event now. And this event is too far from here...
SkatingJesus
King of the Crux Hill
You're totally right about what you said, doing the difference between virtual and real life.
But about GTA, you're a bit wrong!
The main goal in GTA is absolutely NOT to kill hundreds of people. Yes, you can do it, but that's not really the purpose. Every GTA since GTA III has a well built story (yes, it's always about mafia stuff, and you have still to kill people
), but none of them encourage you to kill innocents bystanders.And that's something a lot of people didn't understand, and they consider the game series as just pure brutality. Every new GTA release got its own "polemic", about the fact that you can run over people with a car, etc... But every "journalist" writing an article about these games never played it.
In a word, the GTA have the same problem than us here: being judged by people who didn't even know what it is about!
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You're totally right about what you said, doing the difference between virtual and real life.
But about GTA, you're a bit wrong!
The main goal in GTA is absolutely NOT to kill hundreds of people. Yes, you can do it, but that's not really the purpose. Every GTA since GTA III has a well built story (yes, it's always about mafia stuff, and you have still to kill people
And that's something a lot of people didn't understand, and they consider the game series as just pure brutality. Every new GTA release got its own "polemic", about the fact that you can run over people with a car, etc... But every "journalist" writing an article about these games never played it.
In a word, the GTA have the same problem as us here: being judged by people who didn't even know what it is about!
I've only seen snippets of it played by friends and heard other folks talk about rampaging, so I'm no expert on it by any means lol. It's cool that it has good story elements though, and that makes sense given its popularity! I'd play it, but I don't really prefer urban/modern settings. I like the games I play to be pretty distant from reality, the Souls games, Legend of Zelda, y'know.
Alls I'm getting as is that online fantasy content that tends violent gets it out just as well as games that let you be violent. I remember reading a few studies that showed being violent in games made people more chill in real life because of the stress relief, and I wouldn't be surprised if this site and sites similar did much the same. Yeah you got whacked outliers that do crazy stuff rarely, but that's not a fault of the fantasy. Them folks was already off.
SkatingJesus
King of the Crux Hill
I think I wouldn't have the same self-control I have in real life if I didn't killed about 1 million people in videogames!
connoisseurs
Senator
Just to be on the safe side - you shouldn´t forget to work on new pics, lots of themI think I wouldn't have the same self-control I have in real life if I didn't killed about 1 million people in videogames!
RacingRodent
Consul
I think I wouldn't have the same self-control I have in real life if I didn't killed about 1 million people in videogames!
This reminds of the time my brother kindly brought me a Star Trek franchised game thinking it would be all nice and pacifistic, when he next asked how it was going I was like "I just invaded some [minor race] home planet and apparently killed four million people playing as the Romulans"...he was a bit taken aback
I suspect that there are a couple of different schools of thought on this. On the one hand, there are very well-meaning people who feel strongly that any thought of bondage, SM, or kinky sexual fantasy is inherently bad, especially for women, and is tantamount to promoting misogyny. They don't really want to understand that things don't necessarily fit the black and white notions. Part of this, I think, stems from the Biblical idea where Jesus said that if you think about doing something, it's as if you've already done it in your heart. In that interpretation, just thinking about rape would make one a rapist. This is pretty good for convincing people that they're all sinners in need of salvation, but not helpful for people who are simply trying to get through life and sort a few things out.
On the other hand, there are people who understand that the world and things in it are usually a bit more graded, and the fact that someone writes an erotic rape scene does not necessarily make that writer a rapist, and the fact that a modern or even feminist woman might become aroused by a rape fantasy does not make her a gender traitor or delusional. One can want equal rights for both/all genders and still have interesting fantasies. What I want for my female friends in the office is not the same thing as I want for my lover, and not the same thing as I want to fantasize about in my spare time. People are more than one thing or one idea.
That said, if you are going to be the sort of person who internalizes and over-analyzes your fantasies and believes that writing or painting a crucifixion of a pretty girl means that you actually are, psychologically, a torturer or murderer, and not just someone with some interesting fantasies, you are going to have some difficult times ahead if you stay around here. As the resident anthropomorphic personification of the eternal on this forum
, I suggest you shift your belief system to something more reasonable; for example, you are not a bad person as long as you don't abuse real people, and apparently contradictory ideas can, paradoxically, exist in the same world view.
On the other hand, there are people who understand that the world and things in it are usually a bit more graded, and the fact that someone writes an erotic rape scene does not necessarily make that writer a rapist, and the fact that a modern or even feminist woman might become aroused by a rape fantasy does not make her a gender traitor or delusional. One can want equal rights for both/all genders and still have interesting fantasies. What I want for my female friends in the office is not the same thing as I want for my lover, and not the same thing as I want to fantasize about in my spare time. People are more than one thing or one idea.
That said, if you are going to be the sort of person who internalizes and over-analyzes your fantasies and believes that writing or painting a crucifixion of a pretty girl means that you actually are, psychologically, a torturer or murderer, and not just someone with some interesting fantasies, you are going to have some difficult times ahead if you stay around here. As the resident anthropomorphic personification of the eternal on this forum
, I suggest you shift your belief system to something more reasonable; for example, you are not a bad person as long as you don't abuse real people, and apparently contradictory ideas can, paradoxically, exist in the same world view.
I suspect that there are a couple of different schools of thought on this. On the one hand, there are very well-meaning people who feel strongly that any thought of bondage, SM, or kinky sexual fantasy is inherently bad, especially for women, and is tantamount to promoting misogyny. They don't really want to understand that things don't necessarily fit the black and white notions. Part of this, I think, stems from the Biblical idea where Jesus said that if you think about doing something, it's as if you've already done it in your heart. In that interpretation, just thinking about rape would make one a rapist. This is pretty good for convincing people that they're all sinners in need of salvation, but not helpful for people who are simply trying to get through life and sort a few things out.
On the other hand, there are people who understand that the world and things in it are usually a bit more graded, and the fact that someone writes an erotic rape scene does not necessarily make that writer a rapist, and the fact that a modern or even feminist woman might become aroused by a rape fantasy does not make her a gender traitor or delusional. One can want equal rights for both/all genders and still have interesting fantasies. What I want for my female friends in the office is not the same thing as I want for my lover, and not the same thing as I want to fantasize about in my spare time. People are more than one thing or one idea.
That said, if you are going to be the sort of person who internalizes and over-analyzes your fantasies and believes that writing or painting a crucifixion of a pretty girl means that you actually are, psychologically, a torturer or murderer, and not just someone with some interesting fantasies, you are going to have some difficult times ahead if you stay around here. As the resident anthropomorphic personification of the eternal on this forum
Well said!!!!
Crux-Emperor Baracus X
Rectidolor
I must be a rather complex person...
In real life I'm terribly shy and awkward around pretty women.
And i love them to bits.....!!
Yet in my fantasies I'm a cruel sadistic bastard,who loves torturing and raping umpteen near-naked lovelies....then nailing them to crosses.
Is this normal ??
One thing is for sure....
Fantasy and Reality are like a Universe apart !!
In real life I'm terribly shy and awkward around pretty women.
And i love them to bits.....!!
Yet in my fantasies I'm a cruel sadistic bastard,who loves torturing and raping umpteen near-naked lovelies....then nailing them to crosses.
Is this normal ??
One thing is for sure....
Fantasy and Reality are like a Universe apart !!
Kathy
Terra Nova Tramp
I suspect that there are a couple of different schools of thought on this. On the one hand, there are very well-meaning people who feel strongly that any thought of bondage, SM, or kinky sexual fantasy is inherently bad, especially for women, and is tantamount to promoting misogyny. They don't really want to understand that things don't necessarily fit the black and white notions. Part of this, I think, stems from the Biblical idea where Jesus said that if you think about doing something, it's as if you've already done it in your heart. In that interpretation, just thinking about rape would make one a rapist. This is pretty good for convincing people that they're all sinners in need of salvation, but not helpful for people who are simply trying to get through life and sort a few things out.
On the other hand, there are people who understand that the world and things in it are usually a bit more graded, and the fact that someone writes an erotic rape scene does not necessarily make that writer a rapist, and the fact that a modern or even feminist woman might become aroused by a rape fantasy does not make her a gender traitor or delusional. One can want equal rights for both/all genders and still have interesting fantasies. What I want for my female friends in the office is not the same thing as I want for my lover, and not the same thing as I want to fantasize about in my spare time. People are more than one thing or one idea.
That said, if you are going to be the sort of person who internalizes and over-analyzes your fantasies and believes that writing or painting a crucifixion of a pretty girl means that you actually are, psychologically, a torturer or murderer, and not just someone with some interesting fantasies, you are going to have some difficult times ahead if you stay around here. As the resident anthropomorphic personification of the eternal on this forum
I agree , well said
L
Lust
Guest
I have had similar experiences in a game called Saint's Row. I almost starting feeling bad with some of the stuff you can do in that game from organised crime via drugs, prostitution, sex slaves from overseas, and whatnot. I had my female character who I made to look as close to myself at the time as possible strip naked, and just start mowing people down in the street. The game lets you play naked, but blurs out the "naughty" bits.You're totally right about what you said, doing the difference between virtual and real life.
But about GTA, you're a bit wrong!
The main goal in GTA is absolutely NOT to kill hundreds of people. Yes, you can do it, but that's not really the purpose. Every GTA since GTA III has a well built story (yes, it's always about mafia stuff, and you have still to kill people
And that's something a lot of people didn't understand, and they consider the game series as just pure brutality. Every new GTA release got its own "polemic", about the fact that you can run over people with a car, etc... But every "journalist" writing an article about these games never played it.
In a word, the GTA have the same problem than us here: being judged by people who didn't even know what it is about!
Game is a bit of a parody of GTA, though. Has porn star actress Sasha Grey in one of the voice roles as well as Burt Reynolds and Hulk Hogan, so you know it's crazy.