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Cam's Camera: Mythology
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Zungur
Governor
But how can he be omniscient, if he doesn't know that?
Migoz2
Senator
That's the sort of question that led to Lucifer being evicted.......
It's sort of like how God can be omnipotent, but can't do things that are not in his nature to do, or things that are self-contradictory.
It's all perfectly simple really - as Pseudo-Dionysius the Areopagite put it in The Mystical Theology (trans. C. E. Rolt):
CHAPTER V That He Who is the Pre-eminent Cause of everything intelligibly perceived is not Himself any one of the things intelligibly perceived.
Once more, ascending yet higher we maintain that It is not soul, or mind, or endowed with the faculty of imagination, conjecture, reason, or understanding; nor is It any act of reason or understanding; nor can It be described by the reason or perceived by the understanding, since It is not number, or order, or greatness, or littleness, or equality, or inequality, and since It is not immovable nor in motion, or at rest, and has no power, and is not power or light, and does not live, and is not life; nor is It personal essence, or eternity, or time; nor can It be grasped by the understanding since It is not knowledge or truth; nor is It kingship or wisdom; nor is It one, nor is It unity, nor is It Godhead or Goodness; nor is It a Spirit, as we understand the term, since It is not Sonship or Fatherhood; nor is It any other thing such as we or any other being can have knowledge of; nor does It belong to the category of non-existence or to that of existence; nor do existent beings know It as it actually is, nor does It know them as they actually are; nor can the reason attain to It to name It or to know It; nor is it darkness, nor is It light, or error, or truth; nor can any affirmation or negation apply to it; for while applying affirmations or negations to those orders of being that come next to It, we apply not unto It either affirmation or negation, inasmuch as It transcends all affirmation by being the perfect and unique Cause of all things, and transcends all negation by the pre-eminence of Its simple and absolute nature-free from every limitation and beyond them all.
CHAPTER V That He Who is the Pre-eminent Cause of everything intelligibly perceived is not Himself any one of the things intelligibly perceived.
Once more, ascending yet higher we maintain that It is not soul, or mind, or endowed with the faculty of imagination, conjecture, reason, or understanding; nor is It any act of reason or understanding; nor can It be described by the reason or perceived by the understanding, since It is not number, or order, or greatness, or littleness, or equality, or inequality, and since It is not immovable nor in motion, or at rest, and has no power, and is not power or light, and does not live, and is not life; nor is It personal essence, or eternity, or time; nor can It be grasped by the understanding since It is not knowledge or truth; nor is It kingship or wisdom; nor is It one, nor is It unity, nor is It Godhead or Goodness; nor is It a Spirit, as we understand the term, since It is not Sonship or Fatherhood; nor is It any other thing such as we or any other being can have knowledge of; nor does It belong to the category of non-existence or to that of existence; nor do existent beings know It as it actually is, nor does It know them as they actually are; nor can the reason attain to It to name It or to know It; nor is it darkness, nor is It light, or error, or truth; nor can any affirmation or negation apply to it; for while applying affirmations or negations to those orders of being that come next to It, we apply not unto It either affirmation or negation, inasmuch as It transcends all affirmation by being the perfect and unique Cause of all things, and transcends all negation by the pre-eminence of Its simple and absolute nature-free from every limitation and beyond them all.
malins
Stumbling Seeker
I call bullshit! This is nothing other than an Argument from Authoritative Capitalization!
AS JOLLYREI DEMONSTRATES BY AUTHORITATIVE CAPITALIZATION, HE IS THE A AND Ω.
IT'S VERY KIND OF YOU - I DON'T THINK I'VE EVER BEEN CONSIDERED AS THE CAUSE OF ALL THINGS. I GENERALLY MAKE SURE THINGS STOP "CAUSING". IT'S A SORT OF "BUDDHIST" THING, REALLY.
Naraku
Draconarius
Migoz2
Senator
I am not sure some of those artists have worked out how swan-human reproduction actually works...........
CamCrux
Magistrate
Migoz2
Senator
Whereas a golden shower or a fall of dew would get a girl really wet
Naraku
Draconarius
You do know that "golden shower" has another meaning, right?
"It was wet and yellow and smelled funk. I think Zeus gave me a golden shower."
This just looks like it's going to end badly for the girl. Never let a swan's beak get anywhere near there. Zeus is likely to get kicked straight through the wall.Dove? Swan? A bird's a bird, right?
bobinder
ARTISAN
As I noted earlier, on DA, this is a beautiful interpretation of the subject, so neatly composed that it is all but impossible to tell which items are inserted components, and which are original within the scene. Leda's right arm and leg are outstretched, complimenting the bird's outstretched wings, so that the right foot appears just above the right wing. @Naraku has already observed that this is a popular subject for painters of Greek mythology, and Kam's photo manipulation falls very much within established tradition.
I believe the model for Leda is an authentic part of the original picture, together with the rocks and foliage of the background. The inserted components appear to be the swan, the gold bracelet, the repeated swan motif of the pendant, and the stone carving - again repeating the motif of Leda and the swan. This provides a reading of the picture on a very symbolist level, whilst in aesthetic terms the composition is an attractive blend of items which work together very convincingly.
Shiva observed that in the first version, as originally published on DA, the swan's wing had been clipped to prevent flight, and an interesting exchange ensued. Rather than a manip cutting error, it transpired that the source figure was of a swan with clipped wings. And so, Kam restored the feathers to a condition suitable for flight, and this is the version of the picture presented here.
I like the way in which the vibrant, autumnal, background colours reflect those in the translucent logo at lower right. Thanks for another beautiful manipulation, Kam!
And the model is convincingly Greek-looking. As Bob notes, it is very difficult to say here what is original and what is inserted. This makes it look very much like a photo of the original mythical meeting, but we know that's not possible, right?
Very nice work to produce such a convincing representation.
Baron Von Sade
Governor
What if he doesn't bite.... what if he only... beaks?
That's better, is it?
I think Zeus should have thought a bit harder about his avatar. Mind you, the girl doesn't look upset (yet), so who am I to criticize? 