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Adrian123 said:
Hi Willowfall.
thank you so much firstly for your reply and secondly for the advice .
I am you are right a complete novice and have no actual experience of the subject or crucifition or impailing .
get experience you say , I find that dificult as ther are few if any clubs that cater for the subject here in the uk.
to-mix with people who are interested like me in the subject neigh on impossible .
I came into the area out of pure interest ,was not originally going to practice it
and after listening to you , and I am greatfull to you for talking , I just won’t be doing it .
have no intention of offering my self up to be put on a cross le5 alone impailed .
if one looks at the subject , it is a form of execution of the subject , death being the end result .that is illegal is it not
in both your country and mine you could get a lengthy jail sentence no doubt
so I have no intention what so ever of getting involved .
I will however stay on the site as I find the subject matter very interesting .
you are a very well informed lady and I would like to maintain contact
kind regards
adrian
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Well you can make a simulation of an impalement, its not that dangerous, you just need to find the right person, ofcourse you dont need to impale or get impaled farther than a usual cock... Just use a dildo not a stake, if you want to make it looks more realistic attach a dildo on a javelin, this can work easily even if you are completely amateur, tha same with a crucifixion you can use ropes instead of nails, but try to buy a cross not build one yourself and ofcourse try not to fall and don't bind the ropes very tightly, that could stop the blood circulation i guess... But the most difficult part of doing all of the above, as i said is to find the right, willing person.
 
gjpain said:
Well you can make a simulation of an impalement, its not that dangerous, you just need to find the right person, ofcourse you dont need to impale or get impaled farther than a usual cock... Just use a dildo not a stake, if you want to make it looks more realistic attach a dildo on a javelin, this can work easily even if you are completely amateur, tha same with a crucifixion you can use ropes instead of nails, but try to buy a cross not build one yourself and ofcourse try not to fall and don't bind the ropes very tightly, that could stop the blood circulation i guess... But the most difficult part of doing all of the above, as i said is to find the right, willing person.
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Very ,very interested in that , I could make a sound post and do as you say put a good sized length wise dildo to support me
Make it at least waist high and get the lady to put me on it .
It would only fill my anus and not go any higher.
Then get fixed .legs bound around it and arms tied behind my back
I would very much like to do it and stay on the pole for some time
She could deal with me as she wanted.
Re the crucifition , that appeals also as crosses are ready available over here.
All sizes and makes to suit your pocket
Rope or fixing gloves with ready made bolts attached ,seen those advertised as well
She could crux me and leave me or play
You have given me ideas.
Crucifitions are done here ,but it’s finding the group or lady to play with
The crosses are sound and designed for play
Thank you for you advice , keep in touch and I enjoy looking at the photos .
There are some very good ones
Kind regards
Adrian
 
Adrian123 said:
I wonder if impailing of either a woman or a man has ever been done in real life .
Has any body really put someone on a pole and watched it push up inside the person
Also does the impailing of a man reality touch the prostate causing an erection in the man .
In the woman is it possible to impaile her through the vagina
But yes has any one ever impailed any one ?
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impaling was very popular with pillagers, who didn't want to go through all the trouble of setting a pyre or gallows up. it was also a popular punishment for thieves and, in norther Europe, for unfaithful women.

impaling for men usually involved cutting a hole between the anus and the testicles and inserting the pole that way. for women, the stake through the vagina is obviously a rather symbolic way to be killed.

the images we usually have here of the stake going straight through the victim and out of the mouth are not very historically accurate. usually, they were either very thick wood or had a few spikes to slow the descent. the point would usually only come out the other side (usually the chest) long after the body was dead. the victim would live as long as their heart continued beating, which could be days. bleeding was usually fairly minimal and the stake, rather than piercing organs, usually pushed them out of the way. blood clots reaching the heart was actually the most likely cause of death.
 
Zorf24 said:
impaling was very popular with pillagers, who didn't want to go through all the trouble of setting a pyre or gallows up. it was also a popular punishment for thieves and, in norther Europe, for unfaithful women.

impaling for men usually involved cutting a hole between the anus and the testicles and inserting the pole that way. for women, the stake through the vagina is obviously a rather symbolic way to be killed.

the images we usually have here of the stake going straight through the victim and out of the mouth are not very historically accurate. usually, they were either very thick wood or had a few spikes to slow the descent. the point would usually only come out the other side (usually the chest) long after the body was dead. the victim would live as long as their heart continued beating, which could be days. bleeding was usually fairly minimal and the stake, rather than piercing organs, usually pushed them out of the way. blood clots reaching the heart was actually the most likely cause of death.
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That’s a very interesting reply .
I just wonder if impailing has really died out
In Europe maybe , but Eastern Europe and Africa I doubt .
So I often wondered where they put the pole in men.
Cutting a hole makes sense and then pushing the pole through .
Take into account that it was a form of execution ,so the mans life did not mater .
Pushing the pole in through the hole would push the organs aside ?
As you say with a woman there’s the anus or vagina .
Which was the most popular I ask ?
Taking into account there’s the Rams head with its two horns.
Crucifition was the same no doubt , ramming a pole up the anus would give the man some time .
Does it really massage the prostate ,if so that would guarantee a hard erection and as they
say a final huge climax ?
Adrian
 
On the subject - there was a newspaper report, a few years ago now, of an accidental impaling.
"A young man returns home after a night in the pub and thinks that it would be amusing to open his bedroom window and "moon" at passersby in the street.
Sadly (at least for him if not for the rest of us) he overbalances, falls out of the window and impales himself on the "area" railings"
(An "area" being the open space in front of the house wall which gives light and air to the basement windows. A common enough sight in front of 18th/19th C buildings in the UK.)
The report did not state how the railing spike(s) entered his body, I would guess most likely from front to back (or back to front) depending on how he oriented himself when falling. I don't know whether to weep or laugh at such stupidity.:hollering:

I have read of car drivers being impaled during the vehicle crash by tree branches or traffic sign poles, etc.
I also read of a derailment where the broken rail was thrust up through a carriage floor, luckily it missed any passengers.
To be impaled by a 100 pound per yard steel rail would most likely be instantly fatal.
 
cruxlover said:
On the subject - there was a newspaper report, a few years ago now, of an accidental impaling.
"A young man returns home after a night in the pub and thinks that it would be amusing to open his bedroom window and "moon" at passersby in the street.
Sadly (at least for him if not for the rest of us) he overbalances, falls out of the window and impales himself on the "area" railings"
(An "area" being the open space in front of the house wall which gives light and air to the basement windows. A common enough sight in front of 18th/19th C buildings in the UK.)
The report did not state how the railing spike(s) entered his body, I would guess most likely from front to back (or back to front) depending on how he oriented himself when falling. I don't know whether to weep or laugh at such stupidity.:hollering:

I have read of car drivers being impaled during the vehicle crash by tree branches or traffic sign poles, etc.
I also read of a derailment where the broken rail was thrust up through a carriage floor, luckily it missed any passengers.
To be impaled by a 100 pound per yard steel rail would most likely be instantly fatal.
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It was not uncommon up untill the mid 60s for car drivers to be impailed through the heart following an accident .
The problem was firstly no seat belts and secondly the steering column was a steel solid bar.
Attached at the front tothe steering gear and at thebavk the steering wheel .
The accident pushed the steering column straight into the drivers chest , usually fatal.
There being no seat belt to stop the driver being propelled onto th column
Witnessed several accidents where that happened .
Some times the driver died instantly other times he bleed to death .
Not nice to witness I can tell you
Nowadays they are bent ant collapsible in an accident , plus the seatbelt stops the person being propelled forward.

I am very interested in looking at using a pole and dildo fixed .
Put the person about a foot or two off the floor and the dildo in to its stop .
Then it cannot penetrate the area past the anus .
But the impailed will be secure and still have the experience of the full dildo in him
It’s possible to obtain dildos up to 2 ft long and solid
The base will stop it going right in , but the feeling will be ofitfilling the man
In the case of the woman a smaller length on is needed to stop the dildo perforating the wall of the vagina
So maybe the pole should go up thelafies anus the same as the man
Interesting
Now I would try that

On crucification use strapped hand and feet restraints that are clipped to the cross .
Seen those for sale .
They are a safe way of securing a person
Then just put a small post into the anus to hold them

Interesting , very interesting

Adrian
 
Adrian123 said:
Hi Willowfall.
thank you so much firstly for your reply and secondly for the advice .
I am you are right a complete novice and have no actual experience of the subject or crucifition or impailing .
get experience you say , I find that dificult as ther are few if any clubs that cater for the subject here in the uk.
to-mix with people who are interested like me in the subject neigh on impossible .
I came into the area out of pure interest ,was not originally going to practice it
and after listening to you , and I am greatfull to you for talking , I just won’t be doing it .
have no intention of offering my self up to be put on a cross le5 alone impailed .
if one looks at the subject , it is a form of execution of the subject , death being the end result .that is illegal is it not
in both your country and mine you could get a lengthy jail sentence no doubt
so I have no intention what so ever of getting involved .
I will however stay on the site as I find the subject matter very interesting .
you are a very well informed lady and I would like to maintain contact
kind regards
adrian
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Adrian;

I do not mean to discourage you, I have friends who have been cruxed with ropes and they have all found it a wonderful experience.

I have been to the UK (Scotland mostly) 7 times and on the Royal Mile in Edinburgh I was introduced to a Professional Mistress so I know the UK has BDSM clubs.

My advice to you, if you want to pursue your interests (and you should), is that you find a local BDSM club that does things in a public sort of setting. For example people are whipped in front of a crowd. My reasons for this is , you'll meet experienced people, determine if there are things about the subject you like, be "trained" to be a knowledgeable and safe sub and be in a situation where things are not likely to get out of hand.

The other reason that you should follow this path is that BDSM is a fairly closed and tight community. We all know someone who does "X" or we know someone who would know someone or know someone who knows someone who etc. So if you get over the initial hurdles you can then explore more specialized genres with some guidance.

BDSM fantasies and realities often crash head on and in some most unexpected ways. Exploration of yourself and the world is always good, knowing when to walk away is better.

kisses

willowfall
 
willowfall said:
Adrian;

I do not mean to discourage you, I have friends who have been cruxed with ropes and they have all found it a wonderful experience.

I have been to the UK (Scotland mostly) 7 times and on the Royal Mile in Edinburgh I was introduced to a Professional Mistress so I know the UK has BDSM clubs.

My advice to you, if you want to pursue your interests (and you should), is that you find a local BDSM club that does things in a public sort of setting. For example people are whipped in front of a crowd. My reasons for this is , you'll meet experienced people, determine if there are things about the subject you like, be "trained" to be a knowledgeable and safe sub and be in a situation where things are not likely to get out of hand.

The other reason that you should follow this path is that BDSM is a fairly closed and tight community. We all know someone who does "X" or we know someone who would know someone or know someone who knows someone who etc. So if you get over the initial hurdles you can then explore more specialized genres with some guidance.

BDSM fantasies and realities often crash head on and in some most unexpected ways. Exploration of yourself and the world is always good, knowing when to walk away is better.

kisses

willowfall
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Hi Willowfall

Thank you for talking to me .
There is nothing more I would like than to belong to a local to me BDSM club
It is as you say a very close knit community , and breaking into it is difficult if not impossible
Remember it’s not a topic that you can talk about in public .
It’s very clique and not an open society .
If you know some one you can join in if not there’s no way .
I live in brixham Devon , (torbay ) and there are no clubs that I know off down here .
At least not those in public , I realise it will be very hard for me ,but I am not a quitter .
Don’t give up and never will
Without names or people I can contact I am stuck .
Yes I would just love to be crucified using ropes , belong to a group of like minded people .
Being a man makes it doubly difficult ,
If I can get into aclub even as a lowly slave ,suitable only for being used .
I promise you I would give it my all and do anything the group wanted .
So any help you can give me is welcome .
You meeting a professional mistress is some thing I should do
I will go on the internet and hopefully find one

adrian .
 
Adrian123 said:
That’s a very interesting reply .
I just wonder if impailing has really died out
In Europe maybe , but Eastern Europe and Africa I doubt .
So I often wondered where they put the pole in men.
Cutting a hole makes sense and then pushing the pole through .
Take into account that it was a form of execution ,so the mans life did not mater .
Pushing the pole in through the hole would push the organs aside ?
As you say with a woman there’s the anus or vagina .
Which was the most popular I ask ?
Taking into account there’s the Rams head with its two horns.
Crucifition was the same no doubt , ramming a pole up the anus would give the man some time .
Does it really massage the prostate ,if so that would guarantee a hard erection and as they
say a final huge climax ?
Adrian
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there were reports of finding impaled bodies in south east asia during the 50's, but i don't think i've heard of any since. i think it largely died out. it was never really all that popular to begin with.

these days, it tends to either be hanging, beheading or burning.
 
Zorf24 said:
there were reports of finding impaled bodies in south east asia during the 50's, but i don't think i've heard of any since. i think it largely died out. it was never really all that popular to begin with.

these days, it tends to either be hanging, beheading or burning.
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Unofficially there are rumours that impalement was used by Saddam Hussein, thought I am quite sure that that still in middle East even today they perform such punishments, I have no proof ofcourse, but I wouldn't surprised.
 
willowfall said:
Wow, I can not answer your questions scientifically since I have never seen or participated in an impaling and have to rely on historical information that I have come across in my study of history (mostly military).

Adrian first let's get something out of the way you DO NOT want to have these things done to you. There is a reason they were used as forms of execution. There are groups of people who practice "safe" (a relative term) cruxing but that doesn't mean they don't make mistakes and that people don't seriously get hurt. You seem to be a relative amateur in knowledge and experience in these fields. As someone who has been involved in BDSM for a long time, I'd suggest you get yourself some experience in the lighter\easier forms of BDSM before you go as far as a simulated execution. This is NOT a game, people can and do get hurt even under the "safest" conditions.

As to impaling, if you look at artistic representations from the time period there is no end to the ways a person could be impaled or the type of stake used. I suspect it had to do a lot with the resources on hand, the time available to perform the execution and the purpose. For example Dracul is reputed to have impaled some 20,000 POWs at one time in order to deter an Ottoman invasion. The victims were left in the path of the invasion. I doubt very much that his forces has a lot of time to pull this off and certainly didn't want to get caught in the act.

Impaling thru the lower end of the body, no matter how deep, is going to involve damage to the lower intestines which release bacteria and poisons the body. Prior to the invention of modern antibiotics a wound below the navel was generally considered fatal. Another point to consider is that any stab wound 4 or more inches deep generally makes contact with some vital and if not properly treated is fatal.

As to how long a person can last there are a huge number of factors in that equation starting with how strong is the victim both mentally and physically. What kind of shape are they in? Sick, tortured, wounded? If tied to a cross are they meant to die from blood loss (probably a day at most), from dehydration (a few days) or starvation (much longer)? In some cultures (Arabic or Japanese for example) crucifixion was a way to display the victim as they were tortured or prior to execution not as the method of execution.

There are no stock answers. We humans are marvelously inventive when it comes to our inhumanity.

kisses

willowfall
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Nice superb answer .
Let’s not loose site of the fact .much of the site is fantasy.
Keep it that way can we .
But it’s possible to be lightly crucified using ropes
And impailed using a small post and a dildo
Pushing a strap on up is as far as you should go
But it all in our minds is it not
For me to find a lady to whip me is one thing ,the res5 would require me to be on extremely
good terms with her
It’s ok to be put on a cross or impailed , but something else to be cut down and allowed to lead
a normal life
Adrian
 
Zorf24 said:
impaling for men usually involved cutting a hole between the anus and the testicles and inserting the pole that way.
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I've heard that before. Seems strange to me. Do you know why they didn't just go through the anus? Does avoiding the intestines cause them to suffer longer?
 
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