Way to the Cross

[Madiosi]

I think I'd be barefoot. I imagine myself being outdoors in the day time, I'm either fully naked or wearing just a loincloth, and I'm carrying the patibulum either on my shoulders with my arms wrapped around and tied to the back of it or on my back with my arms stretched out and tied to the front of it.

View attachment 1040384 carrying the patibulum on the shoulders with the arms wrapped around and tied to the back of it.

View attachment 1040385 carrying the patibulum on the back with the arms stretched out and tied to the front of it.

 

[malins]

how do you imagine that way to the cross. ... if you could choose, would you walk to your crucifixion barefoot or wearing sandals?

Hmmm,
I think the only situation I can imagine where sandals would make sense:
is if they are a kind of specially made torture-sandal.
Such as with nails or tacks sticking upward from the insole or so.

Otherwise of course I'd expect to be barefoot, what sense would there be in putting anything on my feet.
And so I'd imagine myself something like the drawing for this scene, https://www.cruxforums.com/xf/threads/out-to-the-suffering-grounds.8422/

The only way it could make sense for me not to be barefoot on the way out would be if there is some kind of convoluted religious/ritualistic reason or legalistic interpretation that stipulates my feet not being allowed to touch certain ground etc.
Though in that case I'd rather expect to be bound to the cross beforehand and carried around in some kind of ceremonial procession,
that also does show up in my imaginations sometimes... https://www.cruxforums.com/xf/threads/noemi.6138/

typically my via dolorosa begins in an urban setting along a paved road, but continues out into increasingly rough wasteland, with the sights and smells of urban rubbish, smouldering fires and polluted channels, scavenging birds and animals, thorny weeds and thistles threatening my feet and legs as I stagger along, and culminating with skulls and bony fragments fallen from the crosses lining the route.

Those different textures underneath my feet, that's something I imagine also,
being intensely aware of that.
(a bit like the sensation when you're blindfolded and led barefoot over some very different surfaces).

It would probably start with cobblestones, sometimes dry sometimes slippery.
The post of the cross I'm dragging behind me would be going 'tok... tok...' as I drag it other the stones.
Later there might be the arch of a bridge to cross,
maybe it is an old wooden one that is rough and splintery but warm from the sun while water rushes underneath.
Outside of the town now, cruder paths. Damp earth – then dry, rough roots, soft round pebbles or sharper gravel. Where it’s been shady since the last rains, soft mud squishing between the toes; where the sun has insisted, brittle dry flakes crumbling beneath my soles. Maybe there will be a small stream to cross.
Thinking of it situations like this show up in most of my scenarios I've posted

culminating with skulls and bony fragments fallen from the crosses lining the route.

Yes that is when I know my walk is very near the end. that moment when I realize the pointy things pricking my soles are now not actually stones, but vertebrae and other fragments, remains of those sentenced before, and trying to cope with the realization that this is the fate intended for me as well...

 

[Loinclothslave]

Hmmm,
I think the only situation I can imagine where sandals would make sense:
is if they are a kind of specially made torture-sandal.
Such as with nails or tacks sticking upward from the insole or so.

Otherwise of course I'd expect to be barefoot, what sense would there be in putting anything on my feet.
And so I'd imagine myself something like the drawing for this scene, https://www.cruxforums.com/xf/threads/out-to-the-suffering-grounds.8422/

The only way it could make sense for me not to be barefoot on the way out would be if there is some kind of convoluted religious/ritualistic reason or legalistic interpretation that stipulates my feet not being allowed to touch certain ground etc.
Though in that case I'd rather expect to be bound to the cross beforehand and carried around in some kind of ceremonial procession,
that also does show up in my imaginations sometimes... https://www.cruxforums.com/xf/threads/noemi.6138/



Those different textures underneath my feet, that's something I imagine also,
being intensely aware of that.
(a bit like the sensation when you're blindfolded and led barefoot over some very different surfaces).

It would probably start with cobblestones, sometimes dry sometimes slippery.
The post of the cross I'm dragging behind me would be going 'tok... tok...' as I drag it other the stones.
Later there might be the arch of a bridge to cross,
maybe it is an old wooden one that is rough and splintery but warm from the sun while water rushes underneath.
Outside of the town now, cruder paths. Damp earth – then dry, rough roots, soft round pebbles or sharper gravel. Where it’s been shady since the last rains, soft mud squishing between the toes; where the sun has insisted, brittle dry flakes crumbling beneath my soles. Maybe there will be a small stream to cross.
Thinking of it situations like this show up in most of my scenarios I've posted


Yes that is when I know my walk is very near the end. that moment when I realize the pointy things pricking my soles are now not actually stones, but vertebrae and other fragments, remains of those sentenced before, and trying to cope with the realization that this is the fate intended for me as well...

Ok bravo, you directed me to two interesting stories. It’s your own fault now, more please!

 

[PhilX]

The surfaces the victim led out to be crucified would have varied. When I visited Pompei I noted how streets in a Roman town had high walkways beside a much lower level made up of large dressed blocks of stone where the carts etc would travel, crossing points here & there were raised blocks with spaces for wheels to pass. I am sure that this lower level would be covered with horse shit & human waste chucked out from the houses & shops along the way - an open sewer basically that would I guess be cleared during the night by slaves. Those carrying the crossbeams to their executions would be made to walk in this lower level amongst all the shit, they would of course have bare feet so it would have been very slippery, falling into the excrement would be frequent. And of course being lower than the crowd on the walkway & the guards wielding whips & scourges one would feel extremely vulnerable. Then when out of the town or city the surface would automatically change to a gravelly track, maybe with deep ruts that would make walking with a heavy load across the shoulders very difficult. Finally the way to the execution place would possibly be bare rock &, depending on the location, sharp and jagged that would rip the soles of the feet.
Just the act of walking to be crucified would have been difficult & very painful as well as completely humiliating being made to walk through shit & frequently slipping & falling into it.

 

[Kodos the Executioner]

This might be a silly question, but why don’t you wear shoes anyway?

I don't consider it a silly question. But to answer, I simply do not like wearing shoes. I find them uncomfortable and enjoy feeling the ground beneath my bare feet. Even if it gets hot out, or cold out, I find it is more comfortable without shoes. If I have too I will wear sandals or something, but that does not happen often. I also work from home and can wear what I want. Hopefully that answers your question.

Otherwise, I will add that I have enjoyed reading everyone's responses here!

 

[bobinder]

Few students of ancient history realise that lashing a heavy, wooden beam to the arms of a potential crux girl is fraught with danger. At this point everybody should be aware that she has nothing to lose. She, at least, knows this.

Here we see Shannon, standing open mouthed and apparently disorientated. This pose is often reasonably interpreted as an expression of howling protest, or despair on the part of the condemned girl. Do not be deceived. In fact she is taking a deep breath, having selected her initial target. The flagrum-wielding man behind her is both annoying and bare-headed, which makes him an ideal first choice.

What the sentries are not expecting is the sudden pirouette which will bring the right end of the patibulum crashing into the exposed skull, simultaneously knocking out the teeth and sending the guy headlong, into a cranial ricochet off the wall behind him. In simple terms, he will predecease her and he won't even see it coming.

'How d'you like that, Flagrum Boy!? - Yeah, thought so... Okay, who's next...?'

Great manip with excellent use of light and shade, Madi!

 

[Madiosi]

Few students of ancient history realise that lashing a heavy, wooden beam to the arms of a potential crux girl is fraught with danger. At this point everybody should be aware that she has nothing to lose. She, at least, knows this.

Here we see Shannon, standing open mouthed and apparently disorientated. This pose is often reasonably interpreted as an expression of howling protest, or despair on the part of the condemned girl. Do not be deceived. In fact she is taking a deep breath, having selected her initial target. The flagrum-wielding man behind her is both annoying and bare-headed, which makes him an ideal first choice.

What the sentries are not expecting is the sudden pirouette which will bring the right end of the patibulum crashing into the exposed skull, simultaneously knocking out the teeth and sending the guy headlong, into a cranial ricochet off the wall behind him. In simple terms, he will predecease her and he won't even see it coming.

'How d'you like that, Flagrum Boy!? - Yeah, thought so... Okay, who's next...?'

Great manip with excellent use of light and shade, Madi!

 

[Althanie J]

Hey everyone! I am new here, and one thing that I like to think about is my way to be crucified, and I want ti ask you all how do you imagine that way to the cross. I have a foot fetish and something I’d like to know is: if you could choose, would you walk to your crucifixion barefoot or wearing sandals? If barefoot, How do you imagine the ground?

When I do self-crux play sessions I ted to start out robed and sandaled. I'll carry the patibulum sandaled and remove the sandals and be barefoot during the "nailing" and beyond.

 

[Tenterden]

When I do self-crux play sessions I ted to start out robed and sandaled. I'll carry the patibulum sandaled and remove the sandals and be barefoot during the "nailing" and beyond.

When i do my session i start with a loincloth on and when im flogged its ripped off then I'm naked for the rest of the time im crucified

 

[Frank Petrexa]

Few students of ancient history realise that lashing a heavy, wooden beam to the arms of a potential crux girl is fraught with danger. At this point everybody should be aware that she has nothing to lose. She, at least, knows this.

Here we see Shannon, standing open mouthed and apparently disorientated. This pose is often reasonably interpreted as an expression of howling protest, or despair on the part of the condemned girl. Do not be deceived. In fact she is taking a deep breath, having selected her initial target. The flagrum-wielding man behind her is both annoying and bare-headed, which makes him an ideal first choice.

What the sentries are not expecting is the sudden pirouette which will bring the right end of the patibulum crashing into the exposed skull, simultaneously knocking out the teeth and sending the guy headlong, into a cranial ricochet off the wall behind him. In simple terms, he will predecease her and he won't even see it coming.

'How d'you like that, Flagrum Boy!? - Yeah, thought so... Okay, who's next...?'

Great manip with excellent use of light and shade, Madi!

Actually, that is a good point. How can you control someone? Make the timber very heavy so it was all they could do to ? Scourge them first so they have almost no strength? Control them with ropes front and back around their waists (or necks) so a good jerk can bring them down before they can do anything? Hobble them? The Gospels are pretty clear that prisoners carried their crosses--hence Simon of Cyrene, or John's objection that Jesus carried the cross himself.

 

[Althanie J]

When i do my session i start with a loincloth on and when im flogged its ripped off then I'm naked for the rest of the time im crucified

I also always start with a loincloth and do two or three rounds with it on, eventually ending with bein fully naked. I have a bit of an......interesting.....approach to how I do things. Hoping one day to record a typical session and put it up on the forum.

 

[Althanie J]

Actually, that is a good point. How can you control someone? Make the timber very heavy so it was all they could do to ? Scourge them first so they have almost no strength? Control them with ropes front and back around their waists (or necks) so a good jerk can bring them down before they can do anything? Hobble them? The Gospels are pretty clear that prisoners carried their crosses--hence Simon of Cyrene, or John's objection that Jesus carried the cross himself.

This actually brings up an interesting question for me; Has any prisoner in history ever escaped from crucifixion, either before it took place, during the process or even been able to escape while suspended?
We do know of at least one instance when three men were part of a mass execution. A Roman scribe/nobleman recognized three men among the condemned and pleaded the local governor of that particular providence to remove these three men. They where, however two of them died under treatment while the third recovered.
Has nothing to do with the topic of this particular thread, but still. lol

 

[Tenterden]

watching as I'm tied to the beam
What extra torture would you do to ne before I'm hung

 

[Frank Petrexa]

This actually brings up an interesting question for me; Has any prisoner in history ever escaped from crucifixion, either before it took place, during the process or even been able to escape while suspended?
We do know of at least one instance when three men were part of a mass execution. A Roman scribe/nobleman recognized three men among the condemned and pleaded the local governor of that particular providence to remove these three men. They where, however two of them died under treatment while the third recovered.
Has nothing to do with the topic of this particular thread, but still. lol

I think Josephus himself was the petitioner and Titus, son of Vespasian and later emperor himself, was the "governor"--actually the commander on the ground. It supposedly happened during the Jewish revolt, and the story comes from Josephus.
(Someone does escape crucifixion in Monte Python's Life of Brian with a Simon of Cyrene-type maneuver, sneaking off when someone offers to carry his cross, but that probably doesn't count. There are apochrypha from "gnostics", who have Jesus laughing as Simon of Cyrene is crucified in his place. Gnostics claimed that Jesus never actually suffered.)

 

[prtn]

This is a very interesting question!

Hey everyone! I am new here, and one thing that I like to think about is my way to be crucified, and I want ti ask you all how do you imagine that way to the cross. I have a foot fetish and something I’d like to know is: if you could choose, would you walk to your crucifixion barefoot or wearing sandals? If barefoot, How do you imagine the ground?

 

[Althanie J]

I think Josephus himself was the petitioner and Titus, son of Vespasian and later emperor himself, was the "governor"--actually the commander on the ground. It supposedly happened during the Jewish revolt, and the story comes from Josephus.
(Someone does escape crucifixion in Monte Python's Life of Brian with a Simon of Cyrene-type maneuver, sneaking off when someone offers to carry his cross, but that probably doesn't count. There are apochrypha from "gnostics", who have Jesus laughing as Simon of Cyrene is crucified in his place. Gnostics claimed that Jesus never actually suffered.)

I have heard a lot of crack pot ideas of the gnostic sect. lol
Thank you for clarifying the account. I couldn't remember where it was exactly that I heard of the rescue attempt by Josephus nor the details of the account.
Regardless it still is an interesting thought experiment: Has anyone escaped this most gruesome of death sentences, and if so, how?

 

[Eulalia]

The surfaces the victim led out to be crucified would have varied. When I visited Pompei I noted how streets in a Roman town had high walkways beside a much lower level made up of large dressed blocks of stone where the carts etc would travel, crossing points here & there were raised blocks with spaces for wheels to pass. I am sure that this lower level would be covered with horse shit & human waste chucked out from the houses & shops along the way - an open sewer basically that would I guess be cleared during the night by slaves. Those carrying the crossbeams to their executions would be made to walk in this lower level amongst all the shit, they would of course have bare feet so it would have been very slippery, falling into the excrement would be frequent. And of course being lower than the crowd on the walkway & the guards wielding whips & scourges one would feel extremely vulnerable. Then when out of the town or city the surface would automatically change to a gravelly track, maybe with deep ruts that would make walking with a heavy load across the shoulders very difficult. Finally the way to the execution place would possibly be bare rock &, depending on the location, sharp and jagged that would rip the soles of the feet.
Just the act of walking to be crucified would have been difficult & very painful as well as completely humiliating being made to walk through shit & frequently slipping & falling into it.

I imagine, though I don't know that there's any real evidence for it, that slaves would have to walk in that gutter, the 'highway' being reserved for the military and free classes.

 

[prtn]

the 'highway' being reserved for the military and free classes

most likely

 

[João Carlos]

Hey everyone! I am new here, and one thing that I like to think about is my way to be crucified, and I want ti ask you all how do you imagine that way to the cross. I have a foot fetish and something I’d like to know is: if you could choose, would you walk to your crucifixion barefoot or wearing sandals? If barefoot, How do you imagine the ground?

Barefoot, in road of earth and rocks, with a tunic and a loincloth, carrying the patibulum

 

[cruxbound]

I would go barefoot (I would be fully naked anyway). In the ideal case, the crucifixion site would be at a remote place somewhere in nature. My feet would encounter everything nature puts underneath them. I prefer something soft though . Dirt is no problem however.