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In The Aftermath Of The Crucifiction

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CIRE:

I turn my head left to check out Andrea and speak to her:
"To me it seems that nobody cares that we got caught and how have to die here. Our crucifixion is such an incredible everyday thing to the people attending."

Andrea:
"I think that they all can see that I'm guilty, and how I feel here on my cross."

My reply:
"That is just your thinking. Nobody can tell by looking at you. When they read your Titulus, then they know. But sure not by watching us."

She bows her head, sits on her Sedile and leans her upper body forward, as if she wants to keep her eyes on her dangling tits.

I turn my head to look forward again, and got to stare straight at the boobs and the sarcastically smiling face of Daniela.....

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Thank you Phlebas for this killer Manip. Dang, so close. I love it.:bdsm-heart:
 
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cire said:
Andrea:
"I think that they all can see that I'm guilty, and how I feel here on my cross."

My reply:
"That is just your thinking. Nobody can tell by looking at you. When they read your Titulus, then they know. But sure not by watching us."
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An onlooker :

I talk to a guard : "Funny! That couple of thieves are really in an existentialistic mood! You don't always see that on a cross!"
Guard "Their real existentialism is, that they are two naked idiots on a cross, struggling to stay alive, against all odds!"
Me : "Right! But it seems to me that, either they do not realise it, or they don't care and make a show of it! Here is a coin! Give those naked idiots some more wine!"
 
cire said:
You may not believe it Messaline, but it has to do with the nature of the crucifixion. Once the arms of the victims are attached and the cross is raised, the blood of the victim will sink into the lower body parts.

The Crucified must, a little while after the crucifixion is completed, have and keep an erection. There is not much one can do about it. The church tried to hide that, and gave Jesus a loincloth. As we know today, the crucified normally had to die naked. Everything was taken away from them, including their control over their bodies. That was part of the penalty. Crucified men even had a boner when they were hanging dead on their crosses, since the blood in the lower body kept the Penises erect.

It's not that easy to see for an outsider, when a woman has an erection, but the effect with the sinking blood is the same. The female victims too were not only stripped, but due to the swollen clit and lips of the vulva, they also must have totally lost control over their sexual emotions and their bodies.
It explains, gives us an idea, what crucifixion was. The cross must have drained the victims completely, while the crowd had a ball, watching the crucified losing any control.

And yes, the pain when they nail your wrists to the Patibulum is unbearable. At this point it's not possible for a victim to think that she/he will be sexually aroused very soon. Then you suffer like crazy when they lift you up, nail your feet to the wood. Maybe you will get a Sedile/Cornu between your thighs, to take the opportunity to "sit" on your Cross, or to have the chance that your feet are nailed to a footrest, or both.

These tools of torture will help you to survive easier and longer, but now your blood will sink down to your lower body, cause the swelling of the sexual organs and stimulate you, confuse you, embarrass, torture you with all the consequences for your mind and your bodily functions. You have no idea that it will not go away. You will scream because of the pain that the nails cause in your bones, you will scream when you stand up to breathe, and you will scream when you experience involuntary orgasms while the crowd is watching you.
Probably many of them laughing as body fluid is running down your legs until there is nothing left to give for you. Still you stay stimulated, no escape until you are dead. Even then, the sexual organs will stay swollen.

The crucifixion must and will hurl you into the abyss. To die on the cross means, you are sentenced to die complete while still being alive...... :devil:
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What an additional embarrassment to be showing erections or sexual stimulation while crucified! Could it really be a thing apart from what we fantasize about? I have to admit in my own crux fantasies that all men eventually have erections and will ejaculate (or at least dribble semen) at some point. Will they be horny too or are these erections just a physiological response to crucifixion? Women's clits will become engorged as well as their nipples as they hang naked in front of curious spectators. (I get rather aroused just thinking about it.) Will squeezing my thighs together (assuming I am able depending how my feet are placed) pleasure me in all my agonies? Or will rubbing my clit on a cornu (harder to imagine since it's probably a rough piece of wood -- ouch! splinters!) get me aroused? Perhaps women will be given a nice polished piece of metal or ivory to experiment with. Or, perhaps, just the act of hanging for an extended period will so engorge my nethers than an overall bodily sense of arousal will compete with the screaming agonies from the nails through my flesh and from muscle spasms and cramps.

I imagine begging someone from among the spectators to tweak my engorged nipples and insert fingers into my cunt dripping with juices and rubbing my aching clit to bring me some relief from this incredible sexual tension. Any volunteers, boys?

Or is this line of thought just complete nonsense? A crucified bitch or man has far, far worse problems to deal with than a little physiological tumescence.
 
Loxuru said:
That may be the reality, Marcella!
But we are not here for reality, but for fantasy, right?
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Yes, for the fantasy. It's much safer.:D

But still, I am very curious to know about the reality. Perhaps some long-lost document will be found detailing the manner of some unfortunate's crucifixion. Would it shed light on the erection issue? Would be interesting. Or is there some evidence now?

I recently read that the bones of another crucified man had been found in Britain. Reportedly, only the fourth such remains found around the world. His heel bone had a nail through it, just like another found in Israel. It seems this may have been the most usual and easiest way to crucify: nails through wrists (presumably) and the heel bone to the side of the upright. The upright would remain fixed in the ground and the crossbeam raised upon it.

Various artists have images like this (with women, of course). Heels against the front of the upright would maximize exposure.

Artists have depicted this
 

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Marcella said:
:devil: an additional embarrassment to be showing erections or sexual stimulation while crucified! Could it really be a thing apart from what we fantasize about? I have to admit in my own crux fantasies that all men eventually have erections and will ejaculate (or at least dribble semen) at some point. Will they be horny too or are these erections just a physiological response to crucifixion? Women's clits will become engorged as well as their nipples as they hang naked in front of curious spectators. (I get rather aroused just thinking about it.) Will squeezing my thighs together (assuming I am able depending how my feet are placed) pleasure me in all my agonies? Or will rubbing my clit on a cornu (harder to imagine since it's probably a rough piece of wood -- ouch! splinters!) get me aroused? Perhaps women will be given a nice polished piece of metal or ivory to experiment with. Or, perhaps, just the act of hanging for an extended period will so engorge my nethers than an overall bodily sense of arousal will compete with the screaming agonies from the nails through my flesh and from muscle spasms and cramps.

I imagine begging someone from among the spectators to tweak my engorged nipples and insert fingers into my cunt dripping with juices and rubbing my aching clit to bring me some relief from this incredible sexual tension. Any volunteers, boys?

Or is this line of thought just complete nonsense? A crucified bitch or man has far, far worse problems to deal with than a little physiological tumescence.
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Loxuru said:
That may be the reality, Marcella!
But we are not here for reality, but for fantasy, right?
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Marcella said:
Yes, for the fantasy. It's much safer.:D

But still, I am very curious to know about the reality. Perhaps some long-lost document will be found detailing the manner of some unfortunate's crucifixion. Would it shed light on the erection issue? Would be interesting. Or is there some evidence now?

I recently read that the bones of another crucified man had been found in Britain. Reportedly, only the fourth such remains found around the world. His heel bone had a nail through it, just like another found in Israel. It seems this may have been the most usual and easiest way to crucify: nails through wrists (presumably) and the heel bone to the side of the upright. The upright would remain fixed in the ground and the crossbeam raised upon it.

Various artists have images like this (with women, of course). Heels against the front of the upright would maximize exposure.

Artists have depicted this
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Hi together,

I stumbled over the issue, when I was doing some research concerning uncontrolable erections during executions. I'm not a physician and was astonished about what I was reading.

The article stated, when men get hanged, the blood will sink into the lower body parts and they will have an erect Penis until they are taken down. The genitals of women are stimulated similar, though not visible.

Furthermore the Author was saying that during a crucifixion people also experienced involuntary erections, here while still being alive. The uncontrolled stimulation due to the swollen genitals must be horrible. Just try to imagine, no way to get relief.

There is, according to this article, medieval paintings that show the crucified Jesus with erect Penis. Even though that in spiritual paintings the condemned have a loincloth, the involuntary erection on the cross must have been subject of discussion while these pictures were painted.

Think about it what all these condemned, as here in the story the criminals Andrea and Cire, experienced during their execution.

Don't it fuel your phantasies, too????:devil:
 
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cire said:
Hi together,

I stumbled over the issue, when I was doing some research concerning uncontrolable erections during executions. I'm not a physician and was astonished about what I was reading.

The article stated, when men get hanged, the blood will sink into the lower body parts and they will have an erect Penis until they are taken down. The genitals of women are stimulated similar, though not visible.

Furthermore the Author was saying that during a crucifixion people also experienced involuntary erections, here while still being alive. The uncontrolled stimulation due to the swollen genitals must be horrible. Just try to imagine, no way to get relief.

There is, according to this article, medieval paintings that show the crucified Jesus with erect Penis. Even though that in spiritual paintings the condemned have a loincloth, the involuntary erection on the cross must have been subject of discussion while these pictures were painted.

Think about it what all these condemned, as here in the story the criminals Andrea and Cire, experienced during their execution.

Don't it fuel your phantasias, too.....:devil:
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In situations of extreme fear, bladder and bowls are emptied spontaneously. It is a primitive bodily survival reflex, to drop weight in the face of an enemy creature, one better runs away from. The less weight to carry, the faster one can run!
The excitment of an execution can also create arousal that is similar as sexual arousal. So, a man can get an erection and ejaculate uncontrolled (but aware of it) under these circumstances. An orgasm (m/f) could also act as a sort of brief natural painkiller.
 
Marcella said:
Yes, I would have the guys tear off the loincloth! When I imagine my own crucifixion, or that of other women, I'm always fully naked. Everyone wants to see my pussy!

Being a clothed/semi-clothed woman looking at her cross on the ground and knowing she's moments away from being stripped and nailed to it is a wonderful fantasy too. Perhaps she's stripped to waist and whipped already with her remaining clothes slipping dangerously down over her hips.
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...... the moment when you arrive at the execution site and you have to stop in front of your Stipes that is laying on the ground. Looking around you see how other victims dance on their crosses already. Isn't that a situation that is blowing your mind?
 
Marcella said:
Being a clothed/semi-clothed woman looking at her cross on the ground and knowing she's moments away from being stripped and nailed to it is a wonderful fantasy too. Perhaps she's stripped to waist and whipped already with her remaining clothes slipping dangerously down over her hips.
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Hi Marcella,

to me it's the sum of the little personal things that the victims must experience, that makes the crucifixion a special form of execution. The arrival, when the victim is confronted with it's Stipes for the first time, with eventually other victims that watch the arrival from their crosses while the crowd is cheering and laughing, may be one of these very important moments.

The Welsh Webb Team has captured such a for a victim horryfying moment in this thrilling shot:

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But what no spectator or victim knows in that second is, how the execution will be done.
When I stood in front of my Stipes and they took the Patibulum off of my back, I could notice that the three slaves got crucified with ropes and had their loin cloth covering Cunts and Cocks. Then they stripped me naked. I felt like I was falling into a dark hole......

In this thread here I'm crucified with Andrea as a criminal. The slave Daniela is watching my arrival from her cross and despite her own fatal situation, keeps mocking and bitching about us criminals while they nail me:

Cire Crucifixion.jpg
 
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cire said:
...... the moment when you arrive at the execution site and you have to stop in front of your Stipes that is laying on the ground. Looking around you see how other victims dance on their crosses already. Isn't that a situation that is blowing your mind?
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Yes! I think about this ALL the time... The moment when your execution becomes real, not some far-off imagined thing! One of the best scenes of this, in my opinion, was done by @Wragg and Repertor in The Story of Jasmine.
 
cire said:
CIRE:

I turn my head left to check out Andrea and speak to her:
"To me it seems that nobody cares that we got caught and how have to die here. Our crucifixion is such an incredible everyday thing to the people attending."

Andrea:
"I think that they all can see that I'm guilty, and how I feel here on my cross."

My reply:
"That is just your thinking. Nobody can tell by looking at you. When they read your Titulus, then they know. But sure not by watching us."

She bows her head, sits on her Sedile and leans her upper body forward, as if she wants to keep her eyes on her dangling tits.

I turn my head to look forward again, and got to stare straight at the boobs and the sarcastically smiling face of Daniela.....

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Thank you Phlebas for this killer Manip. Dang, so close. I love it.:bdsm-heart:
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What a lovely manip with such a superb body..... bravo!
 
cire said:
But what no spectator or victim knows in that second is, how the execution will be done.
When I stood in front of my Stipes and they took the Patibulum off of my back, I could notice that the three slaves got crucified with ropes and had their loin cloth covering Cunts and Cocks. Then they stripped me naked. I felt like I was falling into a dark hole......

In this thread here I'm crucified with Andrea as a criminal. The slave Daniela is watching my arrival from her cross and despite her own fatal situation, keeps mocking and bitching about us criminals while they nail me:

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Arriving at the execution site, we criminals saw that the slaves have been crucified with ropes and were allowed to keep their loin cloth. I expected that we will also be permitted to cover our sex, and will be executed just as the slaves.

Like a flash it came different. They crucified us criminals completely naked, using nails. The execution team impressively demonstrated to us, that we are totally in their hands. The onlookers let us know, that it's all happening for their pleasure.....:eek:
 
cire said:
Arriving at the execution site, we criminals saw that the slaves have been crucified with ropes and were allowed to keep their loin cloth. I expected that we will also be permitted to cover our sex, and will be executed just as the slaves.

Like a flash it came different. They crucified us criminals completely naked, using nails. The execution team impressively demonstrated to us, that we are totally in their hands. The onlookers let us know, that it's all happening for their pleasure.....:eek:
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A bit overconfident, to expect priviliges!?:oops:
 
cire said:
Arriving at the execution site, we criminals saw that the slaves have been crucified with ropes and were allowed to keep their loin cloth. I expected that we will also be permitted to cover our sex, and will be executed just as the slaves.

Like a flash it came different. They crucified us criminals completely naked, using nails. The execution team impressively demonstrated to us, that we are totally in their hands. The onlookers let us know, that it's all happening for their pleasure.....:eek:
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If one is tied to the cross and not nailed, there always remains a slight hope of surviving, of experiencing mercy, of being taken down from the cross....

When they nail you to the cross, you know where you stand. You will die on that piece of rotten wood.
 
1972Golgatha said:
If one is tied to the cross and not nailed, there always remains a slight hope of surviving, of experiencing mercy, of being taken down from the cross....

When they nail you to the cross, you know where you stand. You will die on that piece of rotten wood.
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Nails seem to transport the feeling of "final" much better than ropes. The slight hope of surviving is an issue to a lot of people, but I wasn't thinking about it in the moment when we arrived at the execution site.

To me it was more: - Hell, we made it. We really carried the crossbeams to the execution site. Let me check out these slaves to get an idea how they will execute us -

It was my anticipation that the execution team then destroyed whith their further actions. At that point I realized that I loose control, not just over my body, but also over my emotions. That fact almost got me fainting when I stood there naked in front of the hooting, laughing crowd.

Yes of course, me and Andrea are criminals and may deserve the death. But criminals or not, guilty or not, right there I understood that I have absolutely no idea what to expect.......:eek:
 
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