OK, I did not know anything of "Oranum" but you can also check for "Sergeant McGregor" who was quoted in a German TV show in 2008 as British police representant because he was police officer at the time of the Fairford Air Show and he said, he was certainly a sceptic but on the other hand, being a police officer and receiving such a relatively detailed report about a disaster which then really happened, what would you do?
If you do nothing, it might be as wrong as doing something. He was involved in several cases in which the Britisch police acted and he said the dreams of Robinson were not simply to be explained as pure coincidence. How probable is it to predict a plane crash on an Air Show with such details by pure chance via a written fax to the police?
And it is not only correct to be a sceptic but it is sometimes also like in my example about the masses of birds. It is very difficult to make distinctions between charlatanx and people with really unnatural abilities because the first reaction to them is the same and the reaction of charlatans and real "psychics" to such a negative feedback is also often the same.
Another example from "human" society: In Romania there are living about two millions of gypsies and they have their own MPs in parliament. One of them said about 10 years ago, that the Romanian society regards them constantly as antisocial thieves, you usually cannot get a normal job in Romania when your skin color is a bit darker and your name sounds like the name of a gypsy. So, he said publicly in parliament, when you are born with such a stigma, everyone else outside of your community regards you as a thief and even he as a MP remarks that his colleagues do not put their coats in his near because he could be the "gypsy thief of the parliament", what will you become - a high ranking member of the Romanian society or rather a thief? You are probably only fulfilling the expectations of the society because this society has not many choices left for you.
Another example: You may know the funny movie "The Men Who Stare at Goats" with George Clooney and the real story behind is that the US-military really once had a unit for "paranormal remote viewing" and experimenting with "mind expanding drugs".
(Funny for me to imagine an US military unit during the 1970's and early 1980's being constantly "high on Marijuana" etc. "for military reasons", but they really existed.)
The greatest success of this unit was a man with the name Joseph McMoneagle who claimed to be able to wander in his mind to distant places and watching in real time what was just happening there. He said, he received this ability after he had a life-threatening accident and a NDE.
He once was told he should try to find out what was just happening in Siberia because US-satellites remarked the construction of a huge building, a giant hall, which was obviously constructed by Soviet-Russian military units with a lot of expenditures and efforts. He said - and this story is really confirmed - he went to a very silent room in an US military complex and tried to imagine flying there in his mind entering the hall in Siberia and he "saw" the structures of a giant submarine, which was just assembled there.
He told this to his commanding officers who did not believe him because there was no direct way to the water or to the sea from this hall.
But about one year later, the Soviet military began to dig a kilometers long channel from the nearest big river to this hall and the first Soviet submarine from "Project 941 Akula" of the so-called "Typhoon"-class was running of the stack from this giant hall.
OK, and now guess what Joseph McMoneagle was doing later?
He was writing books about his "remote viewing" - investigations for private persons and about aliens from other stars.
So ... ?
Still looking for "The Cat", in the meantime, I found in my archives a copy in German language of the book "Mind Trek" by Joseph McMoneagle, which was too strange and too weird for me when I read it for the first time about 30 years ago, because I still was a "professional student" and "trained" to regard any problem by looking at it in a very sceptical and rational way.
When I first read this book, I thought: "OK, interesting to see what can happen to a rational thinking person like McMoneagle after having had even two NDE's in different times and places and experimenting with too much drugs in a special military unit with very, very weird experiments and tasks. I do not believe so much of this book and I probably never will."
During the last 30 years, I unfortunately had to accept that most people in this world do not think as rational as I did and they never will.
Moreover, I had to make some experiences with a few "precognitive dreams", I did not really believe in before and some other experiences I did not believe to be possible before.
After I read some parts again of this book during the last two days, I am thinking now:
"Mhm - hm - hm! The funniest part is that the people in Hollywood who made this movie ...
en.wikipedia.org
...
must have read the manuscript of McMoneagle's NDE in his book or he was inspired by this movie because the description of the NDE's are rather similar in both."
More interesting for me is that I now would like to know if McMoneagle ever heard anything about the Bavarian "clairvoyant" Alois Irlmaier, because there are astonishing similarities in their descriptions which could not be "accidental coincidence" if McMoneagle did never hear anything of Irlmaier - assumed that both were really having these abilities.
Both claimed by stunning examples that they were / are able to "view" what is happening right now at distant places, but both were also saying that they have a problem with time which is constantly "in motion" or "flowing".
McMoneagle even claimed in his book that he was surprised by the results of two "remote viewing" experiments which were regarded as absolute failures in his time at the special army unit. He had to visit in his mind two places and he was sure to see what was happening there at that special moment, but the buildings were very different.
Several years later, he still had access to the documents about the failures and he was able to visit the places. The places were now looking exactly like in his written descriptions some years ago, when the buildings were not there YET because the buildings had been built in the meantime of about 5 to 10 years.
This led to his assumption, that really all of his remote viewing experiences were somehow coming via "the future" and it is funny that even Irlmaier said something similar about his "visions" in 1946.
On the other hand, some descriptions are still going much too far for me in the reports from both - McMoneagle & Irlmaier - who by the way were both raised in Catholic schools, both believing in God and so ....
But being a science fiction fan, I would be "exhilarated & delighted" if some more descriptions in McMoneagle's book could be really scientifically confirmed or disputed/ denied during my lifetime.
For example, he writes in his book that one remote-viewing-experiment on 22nd of May in 1984 for the (semi-private?) "Monroe Institute" in Nellysford, Virginia led him to very unusual coordinates which made him think soon that this does not seem to be our planet in our times.
He soon spoke in the recorded session about "viewing" gigantic pyramidal structures which were in his viewings "artificial" and partly "hollow" pyramids and much bigger that the pyramids on Earth. He was first "viewing" outside "ancient structures" now crumbling to dust possibly for millions of years and surprised about the smaller size of the sun, then inside in the pyramids and everything inside was different and bigger than anything else he ever saw during his lifetime on Earth.
He also had the impression of being in a shelter with tens of housands of dying "humanoid lifeforms" because something had changed the atmosphere of this planet but some thousands of these lifeforms could escape from the catastrophe and they still seem to exist in our times, but in his imagination, the time was again a problem to decide when this catastrophe happened or will happen. He could not tell in which time he was in his imagination.
Later, he was told he was given the coordinates not on Earth but of the "Highlands of Cydonia" on the planet Mars and the "pareidolia" there of several "pyramidal-looking" mountains in this region.
Now, it certainly would be interesting how much he had already thought about these pictures of the late 1970's in 1984 about the NASA pictures and how much he made about that in his subconsciousness to tell such a story.
The next problem is that you have to believe in at least one conspiracy theory of or against the NASA, if you take McMoneagle's stories serious and I do not really like conspiracy theories.
On the other hand again (this must now be my 3rd or 4th hand, right?
), there are in our days several reports in serious newspapers about flying machines which should not be possible to construct for us until now and even more weird stories which might match to other stories like a puzzle.
I would really like to know what some governments might know and possibly really do not tell us for several "rational" reasons:
On Monday, the Department of Defense formally released three Navy videos that contain “unidentified aerial phenomena.” Enthusiasts were encouraged, though there was nothing new.
www.nytimes.com
This "Galactic Federation" has supposedly been in contact with Israel and the US for years, but are keeping themselves a secret to prevent hysteria until humanity is ready.
www.jpost.com
What do you think?
In any case, I hope that our "human" exploration of Mars will not end this "humanoid" way: