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I've never been to the UK so I'm not familiar with any of those cities
A nice thing about differences between US and UK English - and even Scots vs English English, is the use of 'city' and 'town'.​
The idea of Fleet, Didcot, Godalming or Basingstoke being "cities" would cause merriment to anyone who knows them -​
I live in what we Scots call a "toun" (indeed, it's a "burgh") with a population of just on 900,​
and what I have to enter on forms as my "city" has a population of about 4000!​
But we have no "adult" shops, it's all behind closed curtains, very douce and discreet!​
 
Yee ha!!

A lady friend asked me if I had ever been to Aberystwyth? To be honest its cold and wet in West Wales on the coast,but there are good beaches near by on the coast,one of which i believe is a popular naturist beach.I replied to her question that I only passed through the town!The women there are either well educated ( a University town) or bored to hell! The source of the statistic was UK company Lovehoney based in Bath,Somerset. Internationally such frolics I think more happen in Vegas!


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1. Orlando, FL
2. Las Vegas, NV
3. Wilmington, DE
4. Raleigh, NC
5. Charlotte, NC
6. Minneapolis, MN
7. Atlanta, GA
8. Tampa, FL
9. Anchorage, AK
10. Austin, TX
11. Boise, ID
12. Miami, FL
13. Houston, TX
14. Columbia, SC
15. Dallas, TX
16. Portland, OR
17. San Diego, CA
18. Cleveland, OH
19. Sacramento, CA
20. Baltimore, MD
21. Providence, RI
22. Durham, NC
23. San Francisco, CA
24. Wichita, KS
25. Columbus, OH
26. Plano, TX
27. Manchester, NH
28. Jersey City, NJ
29. St. Paul, MN
30. Madison, WI
31. Cheyenne, WY
32. Denver, CO
33. Chicago, IL
34. Philadelphia, PA
35. Rochester, NY
36. Tucson, AZ
37. Reno, NV
38. Riverside, CA
39. Bakersfield, CA
40. New Orleans, LA
41. Omaha, NE
42. Seattle, WA
43. Milwaukee, WI
44. Greensboro, NC
45. Fort Worth, TX
46. Oklahoma City, OK
47. Pittsburgh, PA
48. Colorado Springs, CO
49. Nashville, TN
50. Phoenix, AZ
51. Honolulu, HI
52. Jacksonville, FL
53. Anaheim, CA
54. Tulsa, OK
55. Aurora, CO
56. Lexington, KY
57. Bridgeport, CT
58. Buffalo, NY
59. Portland, ME
60. St. Petersburg, FL
61. San Jose, CA
62. Billings, MT
63. Virginia Beach, VA
64. Albuquerque, NM
65. St. Louis, MO
66. Kansas City, MO
67. Fresno, CA
68. Sioux Falls, SD
69. Los Angeles, CA
70. Louisville, KY
71. Salt Lake City, UT
72. Stockton, CA
73. San Antonio, TX
74. Little Rock, AR
75. Memphis, TN
76. New York, NY
77. Corpus Christi, TX
78. Indianapolis, IN
79. Oakland, CA
80. Washington, DC
81. Cincinnati, OH
82. Birmingham, AL
83. Boston, MA
84. Burlington, VT
85. Des Moines, IA
86. Detroit, MI
87. Fort Wayne, IN
88. Chesapeake, VA
89. Newark, NJ
90. El Paso, TX

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91. Norfolk, VA
92. Fargo, ND
93. Lincoln, NE
94. Toledo, OH
95. Laredo, TX
96. Lubbock, TX
97. Charleston, WV
98. Winston-Salem, NC
99. Baton Rouge, LA
100. Jackson, MS
 
Yee ha!!

A lady friend asked me if I had ever been to Aberystwyth? To be honest its cold and wet in West Wales on the coast,but there are good beaches near by on the coast,one of which i believe is a popular naturist beach.I replied to her question that I only passed through the town! The women there are either well educated ( a University town) or bored to hell!

Passed through Aber? :confused:
It's the end of the line to Nowhere! :p
 
Edexi and Eulalia,

There is a small town that's not really a suburb St. Louis, Mo (#65) where there's a coffee shopthat all sort of things happen. By 2012 they are famous for exporting 'Eulalia's Grind' but their first notoriety was when the slave Eulalia suffered 24 hours of crucifixion over the commuter lot near the shop in November 2011...

t

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A nice thing about differences between US and UK English - and even Scots vs English English, is the use of 'city' and 'town'.​
The idea of Fleet, Didcot, Godalming or Basingstoke being "cities" would cause merriment to anyone who knows them -​
I live in what we Scots call a "toun" (indeed, it's a "burgh") with a population of just on 900,​
and what I have to enter on forms as my "city" has a population of about 4000!​
But we have no "adult" shops, it's all behind closed curtains, very douce and discreet!​
No Cities here abouts just one horse towns here in Wales,and hardly towns at that!We all have to online for our sex toys,now there's an idea for a business!
They must buy them online at Aber!
 
Edexi and Eulalia,

There is a small town that's not really a suburb St. Louis, Mo (#65) where there's a coffee shopthat all sort of things happen. By 2012 they are famous for exporting 'Eulalia's Grind' but their first notoriety was when the slave Eulalia suffered 24 hours of crucifixion over the commuter lot near the shop in November 2011...

t

(Back to Messa, 4-2007)
I like coffee shops where all sorts of things happen! Poor slave Eulalia,those darned parking lots!
 
our government closed them(our coffeeshops with all druggs) last month for all foreigners:D
 
our government closed them(our coffeeshops with all druggs) last month for all foreigners:D
I read about that & couldn't believe it. Given the current economic situation, I can't believe any country in Europe would do something to discourage international tourism. If they put the same restrictions on the brothels, the only people visiting to Holland - and spending their money - will be tulip lovers.
flower1
 
the coffeeshops in my country selling softdrugs (free in my country but not in the neighbour countries Germany, Belgium, and France) and that's tabu now. Coffeeshop in my country is synoniem with druggs;)
 
I read about that & couldn't believe it. Given the current economic situation, I can't believe any country in Europe would do something to discourage international tourism. If they put the same restrictions on the brothels, the only people visiting to Holland - and spending their money - will be tulip lovers.
flower1
Lovely tulip graphic thanks! In the 17th century tulip lovers would spent a fortune in Holland on them as well as their courtesans!

Yes Dutch brothels have a high reputation (not that I have been mind),it would be shame to limit tourism. All countries in the Euro zone need propping up and helping,banning all non-Dutch nationals from wacky bakky cafes let alone brothels does not help!
 
the coffeeshops in my country selling softdrugs (free in my country but not in the neighbour countries Germany, Belgium, and France) and that's tabu now. Coffeeshop in my country is synoniem with druggs;)
Coffee shops here from when they first appeared,probably in the 1650's were looked upon as dangerous,places of sedition,let alone what the effect that coffee would have on people! I love coffee and coffee shops,particularly Dutch ones!
 
For Jürgen Habermas, the coffeehouse is a place where bourgeois individuals can enter into relationships with one another without the restrictions of family, civil society, or the state. It is the site of a sort of universal community, integrated neither by power nor economic interests, but by common sense. For Carl Schmitt, coffee is a symbol of Gemütlichkeit, or the bourgeois desire to enjoy undisturbed security. And for Alexander Kluge, drinking coffee provides the opportunity for people to talk to each other beyond the constraints of purpose-governed exchanges, to enter into "human relationships".
 
For Jürgen Habermas, the coffeehouse is a place where bourgeois individuals can enter into relationships with one another without the restrictions of family, civil society, or the state. It is the site of a sort of universal community, integrated neither by power nor economic interests, but by common sense. For Carl Schmitt, coffee is a symbol of Gemütlichkeit, or the bourgeois desire to enjoy undisturbed security. And for Alexander Kluge, drinking coffee provides the opportunity for people to talk to each other beyond the constraints of purpose-governed exchanges, to enter into "human relationships".
I'm proud to be a Dutch:D
 
Read through most of the posts and I have to disagree with both the premise of the thread and many of the responses.

First of all our western society will cater to anything that will make money (legal or not) and we cloak our approval or dissapproval in our own morality (which we also assume that everybody should subscribe to).

I'll use my mother for example (very Liberal Democrat). She approves of someone posing nude for an art class because she likes art. She disapproves of a girl posing naked in a magazine because it is "porn".

In both cases the reality is the same, the model is selling the image of her naked body for money. In my mother's mind, if it was for "art" it's ok, but not for a "girlie magazine". If Playboy had been pushed and lauded as art when it first appeared then my mother would be ok with it.

Sex certainly DOES sell, as does any emotional appeal. Look at any car commercial they are selling to your emotional side not to your logical side (my car can get me anywhere your car can and at the same legal speed, so what makes your $50k car better than mine? They sell to the emotion that it improves your status.)

Look at any beer commercial; "Hey guy you look stupid in you unshaven slightly unkempt look with your dumb pickup lines but drink the RIGHT beer and the super model will drool all over you." And then there are the high-brow ones; "You're to smart to drink bad tasting beer that's why you want to drink ours".

EMOTION

If naked girls on TV sold products whe'd have them all over the (as my dad calls it) "boob tube".

We don't because there are a high enough number of families in America that don't want little Johnnie seeing boobs on TV.

AND there are a significant number of women who think a woman showing her body is being 'exploited' and they complain about the company for that reason.

Left wing, right wing it makes no difference.

And once you start parsing things down (say into sub-groups like crux or BDSM) you find an even smaller percentage of people interested which means a large group that is disinterested. There are tons of guys who love Playboy who never think of looking at a BDSM magazine.

And "nude" art was only very publically prevelant in our pre-Christian Hellinic culture because nudity was accepted in the society for certain functions due to the hot climate and they were idealizing the human form (just as the Illiad espoused certain martial achievements as greater than others) as an example. Even back then the vast majority of "art" had clothes.

And that is way too much thinking for this late at night.

kisses

willowfall
 
If anyone has the balls to run a commercial for a $50K car with a naked lady driving it on broadcast TV in the US its either a shitty car or I'm buying it!!!

T
 
Read through most of the posts and I have to disagree with both the premise of the thread and many of the responses.

First of all our western society will cater to anything that will make money (legal or not) and we cloak our approval or dissapproval in our own morality (which we also assume that everybody should subscribe to).

I'll use my mother for example (very Liberal Democrat). She approves of someone posing nude for an art class because she likes art. She disapproves of a girl posing naked in a magazine because it is "porn".

In both cases the reality is the same, the model is selling the image of her naked body for money. In my mother's mind, if it was for "art" it's ok, but not for a "girlie magazine". If Playboy had been pushed and lauded as art when it first appeared then my mother would be ok with it.

Sex certainly DOES sell, as does any emotional appeal. Look at any car commercial they are selling to your emotional side not to your logical side (my car can get me anywhere your car can and at the same legal speed, so what makes your $50k car better than mine? They sell to the emotion that it improves your status.)

Look at any beer commercial; "Hey guy you look stupid in you unshaven slightly unkempt look with your dumb pickup lines but drink the RIGHT beer and the super model will drool all over you." And then there are the high-brow ones; "You're to smart to drink bad tasting beer that's why you want to drink ours".

EMOTION

If naked girls on TV sold products whe'd have them all over the (as my dad calls it) "boob tube".

We don't because there are a high enough number of families in America that don't want little Johnnie seeing boobs on TV.

AND there are a significant number of women who think a woman showing her body is being 'exploited' and they complain about the company for that reason.

Left wing, right wing it makes no difference.

And once you start parsing things down (say into sub-groups like crux or BDSM) you find an even smaller percentage of people interested which means a large group that is disinterested. There are tons of guys who love Playboy who never think of looking at a BDSM magazine.

And "nude" art was only very publically prevelant in our pre-Christian Hellinic culture because nudity was accepted in the society for certain functions due to the hot climate and they were idealizing the human form (just as the Illiad espoused certain martial achievements as greater than others) as an example. Even back then the vast majority of "art" had clothes.

And that is way too much thinking for this late at night.

kisses

willowfall

Great posting Willowfall! Society has become two faced about nudity and in particular female nudity.They say one thing and do another.Many are are against it have privately stripped off on European beaches but come back all shy and coy! I for one wish more people were naturists and learnt to enjoy the human body and realist how fragile and wonderful it is whatever the shape.You are too right about its ok to be a life model despite the appalling small wage she gets for stripping off and assuming an incredibly uncomfortable pose while its not all right to be photographed nude in the sun.

There are no tasty art reproductions of nudes and the naked in our homes any more,there used to be 40 years ago and one elderly lady had a wonderful photographic book of nudes photographed all around the country.Maybe that was before mass media came in and the seedier side of the adult entertainment industry.Before Germaine Greer put on her clothes and became morally superior.

I am looking at the early work of Titian and his mentor Georgione at the moment,painting in oil at the start of the 16th century . Full of soft porn nudes,shepherds and pastoral idylls. But life was short then and it was important to get married early and procreate.Many of these images were painted as wedding gifts as full paintings or on "cassonne" clothes chests.To encourage the young couple to get on with it and produce heirs,preferably male!

I think the ancient Greeks had less of an issue with the morality of the nude,they ran nude at the games at Olympia and even fought nude,as did the Greeks;maybe thinking that you can move faster in the nude,and if you were going to die it did not matter whether you were clothed or not!
I love the Dutch,I might be wrong,but they seem to be happy naked in the sun with no het ups or shame,we Brits are just bashful and coy,spoil sports really,its the 21st century its time for them to loosen up! Its not that we are asking them to get into BDSM,but that might do some of them good!
 
I very much agree - I suppose I'm lucky, I just don't have the hangups about my body that so many girls (and men) grow up with - I'm not at all an exhibitionist, but being naked just feels and looks to me perfectly normal and natural. I'd have no problem being a naturist except it's too bloody cold in the Northern Forest! So I don't go along with the assumption that I'd feel "ashamed" or "humiliated" being stripped for Torture of Crucifixion - vulnerable, frightened, of course, but what have I got to be "ashamed" of? (Perhaps men have more to worry about - what they're thinking and feeling tends to more physically obvious!)
 
I very much agree - I suppose I'm lucky, I just don't have the hangups about my body that so many girls (and men) grow up with - I'm not at all an exhibitionist, but being naked just feels and looks to me perfectly normal and natural. I'd have no problem being a naturist except it's too bloody cold in the Northern Forest! So I don't go along with the assumption that I'd feel "ashamed" or "humiliated" being stripped for Torture of Crucifixion - vulnerable, frightened, of course, but what have I got to be "ashamed" of? (Perhaps men have more to worry about - what they're thinking and feeling tends to more physically obvious!)
cold in your forest? Pluvial yes.......................... but cold not so very;)
 
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