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Hasturan said:
Again and again i see the males who was depicted as abhorrent beasts. Beasts that obsessed by only one thought - to make women suffer, torture and rape her...
This is insulting...
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Yes, I see what you mean and I undestand your point of view
Farrell's drawings are other publications in this forum and this topic are pure fantasms and are at the segond degree

But if you don't like them are you sure you chose the good forum ? Or at least the good topic ?
 
Hasturan said:
Again and again i see the males who was depicted as abhorrent beasts. Beasts that obsessed by only one thought - to make women suffer, torture and rape her...
This is insulting...
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Part of the problem is that creating complex characters is hard to do in drawings or computer art and is more the province of stories and movies. I try to do that in my stories both with male and female characters (hopefully, successfully). I know English isn't your first language, Hasturan (or yours Pierre), but maybe you guys should make an effort to read some of the stories here if you are looking for more than one dimensional characters...
 
Hasturan said:
It is not a problem...
I just wanted to show you the problem that i describe earlier...
Males always depicted as aggressors, torturers and etc. And that fact is a real problem.
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But you are an artist, so you have the power to depict anyone the way you choose. You can make art that has females being cruel to males or other females. Or, you can make art where everyone is kind to each other. There are no rules here forbidding any of that. Why don't you start a thread called, "Hasturan's Kindness"? If you make good art, I will look at it and others will too, I think...
 
Hasturan said:
It is not a problem...
I just wanted to show you the problem that i describe earlier...
Males always depicted as aggressors, torturers and etc. And that fact is a real problem.
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windar said:
But you are an artist, so you have the power to depict anyone the way you choose. You can make art that has females being cruel to males or other females. Or, you can make art where everyone is kind to each other. There are no rules here forbidding any of that. Why don't you start a thread called, "Hasturan's Kindness"? If you make good art, I will look at it and others will too, I think...
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One of the classic uses of torture and peril in art is as motivation for a hero to come to the rescue. A hero does not need to be nice or kind (cf Shrek for an example of humorous version of such) they just need to be willing to deliver the victim from their impending fate.
 
Hasturan said:
It is not a problem...
I just wanted to show you the problem that i describe earlier...
Males always depicted as aggressors, torturers and etc. And that fact is a real problem.
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I'm working on some story/art right now where a woman is the torturer. When I wrote The Serpent's Eye, Sabina, the main character, told about an episode where she met Verina, a prostitute, just prior to the crucifixion of Lucilla (the girl sentenced to be crucified twelve times) along with two men. One of the men, Publius, had raped, sodomized, beaten and nearly killed Verina. She was there to see him crucified, but mentioned how she'd like to be allowed to do other things to him on the cross but they wouldn't let her.

That bothered me some. Why shouldn't they let her? After all, Publius was being crucified by order of his and Verina's master. Couldn't she pretty easily convince him to let her take her vengeance on Publius? What might she do if she had permission? Here's some idea - details will be in the story:

Verina preparing to strike Publius' balls with a cane as Sabina watches:


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Why is Verina naked? Because she doesn't want to get stuff on her good dress, and besides, this is good advertising for what she's selling. Yes, she has forced Publius to get an erection. She used an ancient Egyptian potion for that, something they sometimes used in the brothel where she worked. Then she drove a small nail through it and is pulling on that with a cord to torture him and hold his testicles in position so that he's helpless to protect them when she she swings her cane.

She strikes Publius' testicles with the cane:

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Publius faints. Verina prods his testicles with the cane to see if he is faking.

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jedakk said:
I'm working on some story/art right now where a woman is the torturer. When I wrote The Serpent's Eye, Sabina, the main character, told about an episode where she met Verina, a prostitute, just prior to the crucifixion of Lucilla (the girl sentenced to be crucified twelve times) along with two men. One of the men, Publius, had raped, sodomized, beaten and nearly killed Verina. She was there to see him crucified, but mentioned how she'd like to be allowed to do other things to him on the cross but they wouldn't let her. That bothered me some. Why shouldn't they let her? After all, Publius was being crucified by order of his and Verina's master. Couldn't she pretty easily convince him to let her take her vengeance on Publius? What might she do if she had permission? Here's some idea - details will be in the story: Verina preparing to strike Publius' balls with a cane as Sabina watches:
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Why is Verina naked? Because she doesn't want to get stuff on her good dress, and besides, this is good advertising for what she's selling. Yes, she has forced Publius to get an erection. She used an ancient Egyptian potion for that, something they sometimes used in the brothel where she worked. Then she drove a small nail through it and is pulling on that with a cord to torture him and hold his testicles in position so that he's helpless to protect them when she she swings her cane. She strikes Publius' testicles with the cane: View attachment 554178 Publius faints. Verina prods his testicles with the cane to see if he is faking. View attachment 554179View attachment 554180
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It seems complicated... If there are conflicts, I don't know if I continue
 
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