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Hornet1ba said:
In 1974 i was a teenager getting into cars, but in retrospect they were quite dreadful !
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I can testify from personal experience that the 1970's was not a good decade for car enthusiasts here in the US. The 80's weren't all that great either.

Hornet1ba said:
In 1975 Chrysler introduced the Cordoba, things were getting a little bit better and more stylish!
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Perhaps, but they were still too big, and too heavy. It took huge gas guzzling engines to pull the things down the highway at a decent speed.
 
Naraku said:
Both the US Navy and Air Force experimented with tail-standing VTOL aircraft in the 50s and 60s. The Navy want planes that could be launched from and return to, the deck of a small ship - like a destroyer or even a merchant ship - and protect the ship without the need for an aircraft carrier. Two designs, both turboprops:
by Convair
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And Lockheed
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The Air Force wanted a plane that could be launched and retrieved a trailer, for use in the absence of airfields. Only one design got to the testing phase, the Ryan X-13.
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All three designs were successful in that they could take off and land vertically (and in the case of the X-13, rehook onto the trailed), and could convert to horizontal flight.
All three suffered from the same problem inherent to all tail-standers: the pilot had to land virtually blind, only able to look over his shoulder to get some view of the ground. This was only possible for highly skilled - and incredibly brave - test pilots, making them unsuitable for general deployment. Also, none of them performed very well and they would have been easy prey for any conventional fighter.
The advent of the jump-jet ended interest in the tail-stander.
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Cool aircraft but very impractical
 
Kiduttaja said:
another early ring wing by Givaudan 1909 (second version with additional wings).
Also the "girl with mirror" photo by Clarence White is of 1909...
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The explanation in French on the first postcard summarises the concept of the aircraft : two concentric cylinders, one in front, one aft of the latticed hull. The cylinder aft was fixed, the front one could move in all directions, and served as control surface.

It does not seem to have been of any success (there is even no French Wikipedia page of the project). There are no records that this prototype has ever gone further that ground display, and that it would ever had flown. The novelty that was more succesfull, was the V8 engine, which sold in the next decade. See also :

https://longstreet.typepad.com/thesciencebookstore/2018/12/givaudan.html

And anyway, the "girl with mirror" looks far more elegant than Givaudan's flying sliced saucisse! :rolleyes:
 
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