Now I get it, since you have explained it...."Where is the pleasure of the victim to feel pain?" As to the "proposal" of the thread ? It should read "the intent" of the thread. Also "beauty is pain" equates beauty with pain, not with giggling, laughing or acting silly when in pain. It seems otherwise:
but do not worry I am out of here
but before I do, maybe this will fit in... It is an "outtake"
I think it was accidental, the way this thread has turned out this way -
early on, T-C posted some pics in which the women were obviously enjoying their pain,
and I said how nice it was to see that,
that we - well, some of us - do actually enjoy being whipped and tortured,
so it became a thread illustrating the pleasures of pain
(not necessarily giggling, laughing or acting silly - just enjoying it )