Crucified males

[Tygorn]

Thank you for your feedback.

Of course I am aware that the "three-nails-style" is probably not the way how it was done - due to the reasons which have been mentioned now and discussed frequently before.

I was only referring to it due to the fact that this is still the dominating style in the majority of crucifixion depictions of our "christian" culture and history, in movies and art - and this clip did show that it may have been even anatomically and methodically possible, to drive a very long spike through both feet at the same location without breaking bones and it was done in a way which seemed to look in a certain way "plausible" to the audience (there is a "reason", why the nailing of the feet was shown only in very few - especially newer - Bible/Jesus-movies and clips at all..., I think).

But if the victim would not have been Jesus, who did let (according to "tradition") the crucifixion happen "like a lamb led to slaughter..." as told in the Gospels, but a victim which tried to resist and struggle with all his might, I also doubt that this method could have been performed that easily.

Same for this animated clip (which has been posted before as far as I remember), only difference is how the feet were nailed to the footrest (like used in most passion plays) and not directly to the stipes (which is the method I "prefer" for my personal "taste"). Nevertheless, thanks for reminding - good stuff can get checked out more than once

best regards
Ty.

 

[Andras]

Here are some extreme painful impressions from an animated "splatter" movie, each of the three pairs of feet are nailed with one single nail only

nailing hands: minute 4:50-5:05
nailing feet: minute 5:20-5:50

I think this was the video that made me a cruxfetishist at the age of five.
Thanks for sharing it! I still love the foot nailing part, even if it isn't realistic.

 

[Tygorn]

Yeah, I did also like it very much the first time I found it - even if its "only" animation, I have to admit that the "good thief" has a pretty hot body, and I like the "flapping style" loincloth very much.

But if you watch it more than once, you may notice, like in a "live action" movie, there seem to be some "continuity errors" between scenes where things are not in coherence with preceeding scenes:

For example, you do not see how the "thieves" are being stripped, but afterwards their arms are still bound to the patibulum, but to the front and not to the rear like in the scene before. The Jesus figure did not carry it, so you see him getting stripped.
So, how were the thieves stripped? Was the patibulum loosened, the victim stripped and then rebound? Seems pretty unlikely somehow...
When the feet of the "bad", hunky thief are getting nailed down you see the "good thief" looking at his comrade and then the wooden washer used in the previous scene is gone and the feet are nailed with the spike only.

Well, its still good stuff, but thats the advantage when you look frequently pretty "close" at certain details like these...

 

[petraherz]

I agree, the single nail through both feet thing seems pretty far-fetched. Just looking at the physics, I don't believe it was possible. I did a cantilever beam analysis, modeling it based on a 150 pound victim, and using the mechanical properties of wrought iron like the Romans had. It showed that a square nail would have had to have been around 0.4 inches square where it entered the face of the timber.

Of course Roman nails were tapered, so I used pictures of some I took in the British Museum in London and some pictures of nails recovered at Inchtuthil in Scotland to estimate the taper. Looks like a nail like that would have tapered to about 0.75 inches square just below the head. That would have really wrecked a foot and probably substantially shortened the time a victim would last on the cross, not what the Romans apparently had in mind.

And then there's Plautus, in his play "The Mostellaria." where he mentions that four nails were used in a crucifixion. And unlike all of those painters of religious art, he had probably witnessed a number of crucifixions.

In today's steel nails would be no problem, they are beautiful parallel and Long. The nailing of feet was practiced in the lower part, that would be ok today. to nail with 3 Spikes would be more complicated. But the Body has a better look if it´s nailed with 3 Pins. The triangular size of a hanging Body is also a Basic for the next theological Interpretation. For our theological interpretation: Crucified women by 3 nails are always Goddess´.....

 

[helios28]

Hey Guys, first post here! I could've started my own thread but I feel like my question fits nicely in here. In terms of male crucifixion, and using a cornu/sedile, I've read stories/photos showing the cross with the cornu/sedile already attached as well as ones depicting the crucified man having a cornu inserted before he's even secured on the cross. People can debate on whether or not this can cause an orgasm amidst the pain, which in my opinion it can (I'm a man myself). However, my question is: As a man, with nails in his wrists and heels, believe he would eventually and knowingly descend onto a cornu to take the weight off of the nails? Or do you feel like the condemned would take the pain of the nails over the embarrassment of impaling himself on a cornu?

 

[Deleted member jedakk]

Hey Guys, first post here! I could've started my own thread but I feel like my question fits nicely in here. In terms of male crucifixion, and using a cornu/sedile, I've read stories/photos showing the cross with the cornu/sedile already attached as well as ones depicting the crucified man having a cornu inserted before he's even secured on the cross. People can debate on whether or not this can cause an orgasm amidst the pain, which in my opinion it can (I'm a man myself). However, my question is: As a man, with nails in his wrists and heels, believe he would eventually and knowingly descend onto a cornu to take the weight off of the nails? Or do you feel like the condemned would take the pain of the nails over the embarrassment of impaling himself on a cornu?

I mostly write about female crucifixion with males as background characters. I can't relate to having an orgasm from a cornu because even my annual prostate exam is very unpleasant and painful, but we're all different.

As to whether a man, or anyone, would purposely take a cornu up their rectum to escape some of the pain from the nails, the key to that is time. No matter how averse they would be to the pain and shame of doing that when they were first crucified, the pain of the nails, exhausted legs, shoulders, arms, chest, muscle spasms, and the panic at not being able to get enough air, all of that might eventually drive anyone to avail themselves of any relief available. But ultimately over time, the trauma from the cornu might make that option no longer viable too.

 

[DarkSide808]

I have been crucified once (no cornu, just to a railing). I could only take it for so long and would almost definitely take the cornu rather than hang after a period of time, though Im straight, if I didn't have the option of quitting.

 

[culus]

I have been crucified once (no cornu, just to a railing). I could only take it for so long and would almost definitely take the cornu rather than hang after a period of time, though Im straight, if I didn't have the option of quitting.

As I have replied in the past I enjoy the cornu/phallus crucifixion experience. As a gay man and a 24/7 slave, the anal penetration and prostate stimulation not only enhance the crucifixion session but prolong it, allowing me to hang for periods of almost an hour at a time. I am always "impaled" first and then tied, so there is no surrender to the cornu to alleviate the stress of ccucifixion. I am anally mounted on the cross. There is still movement and struggle and discomfort in my arms, shoulders and chest, but it's a fair trade-off for the pleasure of riding the phallus.

 

[Opal]

But I wonder if it would be possible to sodomise the subject if they were crucified with the legs bent: ie the were on a cross, but crouched, with their feet pinned to the floor, surely my organ would be sweet relief from their torture?

 

[culus]

But I wonder if it would be possible to sodomise the subject if they were crucified with the legs bent: ie the were on a cross, but crouched, with their feet pinned to the floor, surely my organ would be sweet relief from their torture?

And intriguing possibility for sure! I like how you think!

 

[DarkSide808]

If mounted on a cornu first that sort of defeats the purpose of crucifixion, which forces you to dance in choosing between different kinds of pain. For my part I was jacked off and edged while crucified but that's as far as it got for me.

What actually happened for me is the ropes binding my wrists sagged, and because I was already low to the ground my knees ended up touching the ground slightly. So that provided alot of unintended relief. Being that my crucifier was gay, I was worried he would start sticking his dick in my face, but he didn't.

 

[culus]

If mounted on a cornu first that sort of defeats the purpose of crucifixion, which forces you to dance in choosing between different kinds of pain. For my part I was jacked off and edged while crucified but that's as far as it got for me.

What actually happened for me is the ropes binding my wrists sagged, and because I was already low to the ground my knees ended up touching the ground slightly. So that provided alot of unintended relief. Being that my crucifier was gay, I was worried he would start sticking his dick in my face, but he didn't.

I guess it all depends on what you like . . .

 

[culus]

If mounted on a cornu first that sort of defeats the purpose of crucifixion, which forces you to dance in choosing between different kinds of pain. For my part I was jacked off and edged while crucified but that's as far as it got for me.

What actually happened for me is the ropes binding my wrists sagged, and because I was already low to the ground my knees ended up touching the ground slightly. So that provided alot of unintended relief. Being that my crucifier was gay, I was worried he would start sticking his dick in my face, but he didn't.

You should have just relaxed and let things take a natural course. Every experience is valuable. Who knows but that you might have enjoyed it.

 

[frost]

Here are some extreme painful impressions from an animated "splatter" movie, each of the three pairs of feet are nailed with one single nail only...

The video definitely has its moments. In particular, one wishes that the costume designers who work on Passion plays would watch things like this and register the difference between "loincloth" and "kilt".

Beside the continuity errors that Tygorn's noted, there are a few things that bother me. First and foremost, while the Gospels tell us that Jesus went meekly like a lamb to the slaughter, we have to assume that the other two condemned weren't so cooperative. As robbers, they were presumably used to dealing out a certain amount of violence. Yet we've got them trudging obligingly to Golgotha, spread arms fastened to crossbeams and legs apparently unbound...

Let's shift into modern dress, which is how I prefer things. We'll condemn this strapping young fellow to a shameful painful death on a cross, tie his arms to the crossbar, and tell him to march. The weight of the crossbar isn't going to impede him much: a 7-foot 4x6* would weigh about 33 pounds. At some point along the Via Dolorosa, it's going to occur to him that he could use this thing to inflict some damage on the guards. He can't really hope to escape; but if he's lucky, they'll have to stab him to death in order to subdue him; and in the worst case, he'll have given one of them some missing teeth to remember him by. Nothing to lose, here: he's already going to be crucified, and there's not much they can do to make that worse.

This wouldn't have been a problem for the Romans, because, as I understand, they flogged everybody pretty severely before packing them off to the crucifixion grounds. From all I've read, this flogging could be life-threatening, and would've left the subjects incapable of offering much resistance. As I may have mentioned before, this approach doesn't appeal to me: I want my victims capable of struggling fiercely but vainly as they're crucified, and of writhing and jerking on the cross instead of just hanging there like a sack of suffering meat.

No. Let's not feel ourselves bound by the Gospel accounts; let's leave the crossbar at the crucifixion site, and march the crucified-to-be through the streets with his wrists tied behind his back and his ankles hobbled, loosely enough to allow walking but to prevent running, kicking, and the like.
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*For readers unaccustomed to the crazy American system of weights and measures: a piece of lumber about 2 m long, measuring about 10 x 15 cm, which would weigh about 15 kg.

 

[account deleted at member's request]

The video definitely has its moments. In particular, one wishes that the costume designers who work on Passion plays would watch things like this and register the difference between "loincloth" and "kilt".

Beside the continuity errors that Tygorn's noted, there are a few things that bother me. First and foremost, while the Gospels tell us that Jesus went meekly like a lamb to the slaughter, we have to assume that the other two condemned weren't so cooperative. As robbers, they were presumably used to dealing out a certain amount of violence. Yet we've got them trudging obligingly to Golgotha, spread arms fastened to crossbeams and legs apparently unbound...

Let's shift into modern dress, which is how I prefer things. We'll condemn this strapping young fellow to a shameful painful death on a cross, tie his arms to the crossbar, and tell him to march. The weight of the crossbar isn't going to impede him much: a 7-foot 4x6* would weigh about 33 pounds. At some point along the Via Dolorosa, it's going to occur to him that he could use this thing to inflict some damage on the guards. He can't really hope to escape; but if he's lucky, they'll have to stab him to death in order to subdue him; and in the worst case, he'll have given one of them some missing teeth to remember him by. Nothing to lose, here: he's already going to be crucified, and there's not much they can do to make that worse.
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This wouldn't have been a problem for the Romans, because, as I understand, they flogged everybody pretty severely before packing them off to the crucifixion grounds. From all I've read, this flogging could be life-threatening, and would've left the subjects incapable of offering much resistance. As I may have mentioned before, this approach doesn't appeal to me: I want my victims capable of struggling fiercely but vainly as they're crucified, and of writhing and jerking on the cross instead of just hanging there like a sack of suffering meat.

No. Let's not feel ourselves bound by the Gospel accounts; let's leave the crossbar at the crucifixion site, and march the crucified-to-be through the streets with his wrists tied behind his back and his ankles hobbled, loosely enough to allow walking but to prevent running, kicking, and the like.
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*For readers unaccustomed to the crazy American system of weights and measures: a piece of lumber about 2 m long, measuring about 10 x 15 cm, which would weigh about 15 kg.

indeed all you state of the condemned carrying a fairly lightweight crossbar makes sense, just like this UK guy condemned carrying his beam to his crucifixion.

 

[phlebas]

I guess it all depends on what you like . . .

That's it. Different preferences, different configurations. I think the suspension part of crux is very important. A cornu or seat takes away from that, but it can also add that dilema of choosing to be impaled and yet gaining some relief, or not and continuing to endure the weight on arms and shoulders (and if you were nailed, imagine that as an added incentive to seek relief!).

A straight man may also be deeply shamed to be forced to use a cornu, especially in front of other people. In fact being crucified in front of others adds another dimension to the experience. DarkSide mentions being crucified by a gay man. How about crucified in front of passing women? Women with recording devices and mocking smiles?


Culus, where did you get your avatar?

 

[culus]

That's it. Different preferences, different configurations. I think the suspension part of crux is very important. A cornu or seat takes away from that, but it can also add that dilema of choosing to be impaled and yet gaining some relief, or not and continuing to endure the weight on arms and shoulders (and if you were nailed, imagine that as an added incentive to seek relief!).

A straight man may also be deeply shamed to be forced to use a cornu, especially in front of other people. In fact being crucified in front of others adds another dimension to the experience. DarkSide mentions being crucified by a gay man. How about crucified in front of passing women? Women with recording devices and mocking smiles?
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Culus, where did you get your avatar?

Um, that would be me . . .

 

[Ulf Bernstein]

Hi. Wanting to share pics from my last session (January). Would have preferred to wear a loincloth after seeing the pics. Hoping next session to happen next month.

 

[Madiosi]

Hi. Wanting to share pics from my last session (January). Would have preferred to wear a loincloth after seeing the pics. Hoping next session to happen next month.

Thank you, for sharing the pictures!

 

[Jack Staley]

The video definitely has its moments. In particular, one wishes that the costume designers who work on Passion plays would watch things like this and register the difference between "loincloth" and "kilt".

Beside the continuity errors that Tygorn's noted, there are a few things that bother me. First and foremost, while the Gospels tell us that Jesus went meekly like a lamb to the slaughter, we have to assume that the other two condemned weren't so cooperative. As robbers, they were presumably used to dealing out a certain amount of violence. Yet we've got them trudging obligingly to Golgotha, spread arms fastened to crossbeams and legs apparently unbound...

Let's shift into modern dress, which is how I prefer things. We'll condemn this strapping young fellow to a shameful painful death on a cross, tie his arms to the crossbar, and tell him to march. The weight of the crossbar isn't going to impede him much: a 7-foot 4x6* would weigh about 33 pounds. At some point along the Via Dolorosa, it's going to occur to him that he could use this thing to inflict some damage on the guards. He can't really hope to escape; but if he's lucky, they'll have to stab him to death in order to subdue him; and in the worst case, he'll have given one of them some missing teeth to remember him by. Nothing to lose, here: he's already going to be crucified, and there's not much they can do to make that worse.
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This wouldn't have been a problem for the Romans, because, as I understand, they flogged everybody pretty severely before packing them off to the crucifixion grounds. From all I've read, this flogging could be life-threatening, and would've left the subjects incapable of offering much resistance. As I may have mentioned before, this approach doesn't appeal to me: I want my victims capable of struggling fiercely but vainly as they're crucified, and of writhing and jerking on the cross instead of just hanging there like a sack of suffering meat.

No. Let's not feel ourselves bound by the Gospel accounts; let's leave the crossbar at the crucifixion site, and march the crucified-to-be through the streets with his wrists tied behind his back and his ankles hobbled, loosely enough to allow walking but to prevent running, kicking, and the like.
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*For readers unaccustomed to the crazy American system of weights and measures: a piece of lumber about 2 m long, measuring about 10 x 15 cm, which would weigh about 15 kg.

An interesting thesis for which I may have a few things to add. To begin, the groundwork should be determined before the first scourging of the whip, and the first nail is struck.

My prisoner here, Antonio, is an interesting mix; Spanish Catalonia of Jewish origin. He was a hustler and stripper at a gay bar, somehow got involved with an exchange of fire during a drug deal, leading to a murder one conviction, the biggest mistake of his short 18 year life. He is sentenced to death on the cross, to be executed naked and public. I strip and measure Antonio the night before his crucifixion, and make the decisions then. He was a stripper, his torso lean but legs long and muscular due to the exercise of dancing. His scouring well be minimal but crucifixion long and prolonged. We have a dancer for the cross here, that's a death ballet to behold! The execution of Antonio will provide entertainment to the masses.