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I came across a post on this forum,earlier,that showed a naked female christ ornament that was available via Etsy...
But I've lost it !! :( :(

Does anyone know where it is ?! Please !!
 
Massive apologies....I was looking in entirely the wrong place. The article I was referring to isn't  even in CruxForums !!
It was in the Pentacosta site !! (see pic)
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Sorry,Guys !!
P.S...I purchased one from Etsy,it costs 40 quid if a Wall ornament. £18 if a pendant.
 
Massive apologies....I was looking in entirely the wrong place. The article I was referring to isn't  even in CruxForums !!
It was in the Pentacosta site !! (see pic)
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Sorry,Guys !!
P.S...I purchased one from Etsy,it costs 40 quid if a Wall ornament. £18 if a pendant.
How cute!

While it'd be great as a wall ornament, no way I'd order it, since my wife would veto a public display...
 
Searching the internet for nude female crucifix, I came across this (apologies if it's already been posted, the item is from 2016):

Nude Female “Christa” Back at Episcopal Cathedral​

Jeffrey Walton on October 6, 2016

Beginning today, a controversial sculpture depicting a nude female Christ on the cross is returning to New York’s Episcopal Cathedral, displayed on a chapel altar.


“Christa”, the bronze sculpture by artist Edwina Sandys, will appear alongside the work of 21 other contemporary artists according to the Cathedral of St. John the Divine web site: “all exploring the language, symbolism, art, and ritual associated with the historic concept of the Christ image and the divine as manifested in every person—across all genders, races, ethnicities, sexual orientations, and abilities.”


Sandys’ work was previously exhibited in the cathedral in 1984 as part of an exhibition on the feminine divine, but was removed after significant backlash. Then-Suffragan Bishop of New York Walter Dennis criticized the sculpture as ”theologically and historically indefensible” leading to its removal from the 124-year-old gothic revival church in Manhattan’s Morningside Heights neighborhood.


The New York Times reports that Christa is being installed on the altar in the Chapel of St. Saviour, one of seven chapels radiating from the ambulatory behind the choir. In marking the return of the sculpture, Sandys is joined by cathedral and diocesan officials in assessing that “Times have changed”:


The current dean of the cathedral, the Very Rev. James A. Kowalski, saw the return of the statue as “an opportunity to reframe the conversation and, frankly, do a better job than the first time.”


And this time, the bishop of the Episcopal Diocese of New York, Andrew M. L. Dietsche, wrote an article for the cathedral’s booklet — an approving article. “In an evolving, growing, learning church,” he wrote, “we may be ready to see ‘Christa’ not only as a work of art but as an object of devotion, over our altar, with all of the challenges that may come with that for many visitors to the cathedral, or indeed, perhaps for all of us.”


Looking back, Dean Kowalski noted that the statue’s first appearance at the cathedral was long before national debates over such topics as transgender people’s right to use the bathroom of their choice.



Readers of this blog may recall Kowalski as the previous chair of the Board of Trustees for Episcopal Divinity School, the Cambridge, Massachusetts-based progressive Episcopal Church seminary which recently voted to cease issuing academic degrees. The school sold much of its property in the past decade and is burning through six million dollars a year from its endowment, an unsustainable level of spending.


Episcopalians in New York State have been hard-hit by membership and attendance decline, with the Diocese of New York reporting significant losses in the past decade.


Between 2005 and 2015, the Episcopal Diocese of New York declined from 64,027 members to 53,353 members, a loss of 10,674 members (-17%). During the same time period, average Sunday attendance dropped from 21,723 in 2005 to 16,878 in 2015, a loss of 4,845 attendees (-22%). Baptisms in the diocese declined from 1,612 in 2005 to 904 in 2015 (-56%) and marriages performed decreased from 579 in 2005 to 290 in 2015 (-50%).


The exhibit will run from October 6 to March 12.NudeFemaleOnCross-christa.jpg
 
@Sizzle nice article, thanks for sharing.

I never understood why people get so hung up over the gender of a Deity. My mum always argued God was genderless and she was born in the 40’s. It always seemed logical to me. I’m glad they put Christa back up and only wish it was permanent.
But I don’t understand why some Christians and people from countries with a Christian culture are so frivolous about church tenets.
Can you imagine the Prophet Muhammad being represented as a woman? Or that, for example, the god Shiva be represented in the form of a woman? No, it would be instantly perceived as blasphemy.
And only Christians engage in some strange revisionism.
Let me emphasize that I myself am an atheist. But if I were a Christian, this would definitely be heresy for me.
Does a statue of Christ the Woman have a right to exist? Of course it does. But its place is in a museum or at an exhibition. To exhibit something like this in a functioning church is, in my opinion, completely inappropriate.
 
But I don’t understand why some Christians and people from countries with a Christian culture are so frivolous about church tenets.
Can you imagine the Prophet Muhammad being represented as a woman? Or that, for example, the god Shiva be represented in the form of a woman? No, it would be instantly perceived as blasphemy.
And only Christians engage in some strange revisionism.
Let me emphasize that I myself am an atheist. But if I were a Christian, this would definitely be heresy for me.
Does a statue of Christ the Woman have a right to exist? Of course it does. But its place is in a museum or at an exhibition. To exhibit something like this in a functioning church is, in my opinion, completely inappropriate.
Look at history and see who made up most religions. In most cases it was men and women were given an inferior position. As for blasphemy again who made that up.
I don't believe there are many sincere atheists out there. You have to be sort of out there not believe in a supreme being, even with our history.
 
Look at history and see who made up most religions. In most cases it was men and women were given an inferior position. As for blasphemy again who made that up.
I don't believe there are many sincere atheists out there. You have to be sort of out there not believe in a supreme being, even with our history.
To be honest, I didn't understand your answer. I gave specific arguments, and you answer with very vague phrases.
And what does my or someone else’s atheism have to do with it? Well, yes, when I get old (if I live to be old), it’s quite possible that I will become a believer. The fear of death makes almost everyone believers)) But now I am an atheist.
 
To be honest, I didn't understand your answer. I gave specific arguments, and you answer with very vague phrases.
And what does my or someone else’s atheism have to do with it? Well, yes, when I get old (if I live to be old), it’s quite possible that I will become a believer. The fear of death makes almost everyone believers)) But now I am an atheist.
What was vague? Most religions were set up by man.
 
This is from “Superconductivity: A Very Short Introduction” by Stephen Bundell. He talks about Heike Kamerlingh Onnes, who won the 1913 Nobel Prize for liquifying Helium (really low temperature and really hard to do).



“Onnes was one of the first people to really understand that advances in the field depended critically on having first-rate technicians, expert glassblowers, and skilled craftsmen…”



“He expected much from his team and it was said of him that he ‘ruled over the minds of his assistants as the wind urges on the clouds.’ At his funeral in 1926, his assistants had to follow the cortege in black coats and top hats from the city to a nearby village churchyard. Outside the city, the horse-drawn hearse went at a brisk pace and the technicians arrived at the graveyard sweating and panting. One of them is reported to have said ‘Just like the old man; even when he is dead he keeps you running.’"
 
Massive apologies....I was looking in entirely the wrong place. The article I was referring to isn't  even in CruxForums !!
It was in the Pentacosta site !! (see pic)
View attachment 1477394
Sorry,Guys !!
P.S...I purchased one from Etsy,it costs 40 quid if a Wall ornament. £18 if a pendant.
Female Christ is quite well endowed, it would seem.
 
You have to be sort of out there not believe in a supreme being, even with our history.
I KEEP TRYING TO TELL YOU THAT THERE IS NO JUSTICE OR MERCY OUT THERE; IN THE END THERE'S JUST ME. AS TO SUPREME BEINGS, I'M NOT CONFIRMING OR DENYING THEIR EXISTENCE, BUT DON'T EXPECT MORALITY OR EVEN COMMON SENSE FROM THEM. AND IF YOU BELIEVE IN THEM, YOU JUST ENCOURAGE THEM.
 
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