Whipping breasts to shreads just seems needlessly extra. She’s already whipped and crucified. She’ll suffer just fine, anything else done to the condemned is merely to sate the bloodlust (or regular lust) of the executioner.
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Whipping breasts to shreads just seems needlessly extra. She’s already whipped and crucified. She’ll suffer just fine, anything else done to the condemned is merely to sate the bloodlust (or regular lust) of the executioner.
I'm talking about breasts tortures. During interrogation, for example. It's the offtop but i'm interestedWell, everyone has their vices Alex.
Whipping breasts to shreads just seems needlessly extra. She’s already whipped and crucified. She’ll suffer just fine, anything else done to the condemned is merely to sate the bloodlust (or regular lust) of the executioner.
Are you asking if they were done in real life? The writers and artists here on CF have described them many times. Surely they wouldn't just make stuff up, would they?I'm talking about breasts tortures. During interrogation, for example. It's the offtop but i'm interested
I want to know how it was in real life...Are you asking if they were done in real life? The writers and artists here on CF have described them many times. Surely they wouldn't just make stuff up, would they?
If someone can imagine it, someone can attempt it for real. Anything to extract a confession.I want to know how it was in real life...
Do all this things were applied to women's breasts. All this rippers, mashers and other things.
Darkmind's (or other writers) fantasies couldn't inspired me ever.
Anything (if you are talking about breasts tortures) could be too dangerous. There is a big risk to be left without any confessionsIf someone can imagine it, someone can attempt it for real. Anything to extract a confession.
Anything (if you are talking about breasts tortures) could be too dangerous. There is a big risk to be left without any confessions
Do all this things were applied to women's breasts. All this rippers, mashers and other things
I think such things were all part of the medieval torturer’s tool kit. Hard to imagine they weren’t ever used
Like i said earlier, there was (or were) an ancient tutorial for the executioners. "You should pay an attention to women's breasts, there are a lot of veins in it" - quote from this tutorial.I think such things were all part of the medieval torturer’s tool kit. Hard to imagine they weren’t ever used
Like i said earlier, there was (or were) an ancient tutorial for the executioners. "You should pay an attention to women's breasts, there are a lot of veins in it" - quote from this tutorial.
There is a nasty site torturesru.com, there i found this quote...
But i think any manipulations with women's breasts were performed only for her additional humiliation...
Are you sure???Um no, Nobody has ever found a "how to text" on torture that goes back to ancient times. That's not really a good question and you shouldn't take the internet (ESPECIALLY the Russian internet) at face value.
A good deal of what we "know" about ancient torture is based on actual passages in other texts and surviving instruments (if you are interested I would recommend either Mark P. Donnelly's "The Big Book of Pain" or Brian Innes "The History of Torture". Both books point out that torture is NOT a reliable method for obtaining accurate information. And both books point out that there is probably a great deal of embellishment in ancient and medieval texts.) The concept of written 'history' as 'facts' is relatively new concept in human civilization.
However, a woman's breasts, because of their structure, does bruise incredibly easily. That's one reason women fencers wear a armored plastron and male fencers don't.
And since it has an eroginist zone it is also very sensitive. It obviously didn't take humans too long to figure out that you cause the most pain in sensitive areas (Why do you think every woman's defense class teaches us to go after your balls?).
So I suspect that there was no one 'this is how you do it' and torturers learned their trade the way most people back then did (by apprenticeship) and then experimented depending on their personal preferences.
As an example, rape is commonly used today as a form of humiliation and torture. And it wasn't thought up yesterday.
Basically if you can think of a way to inflict pain on a woman, short of modern things like electricity, someone else had done it centuries before you were born.
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Tree still doesn't understand the point of this. Why beat someone you are executing? I will drink...Fairly sure. Both authors are pretty good at their research if a known torture manual did exist from say Rome they would have found it or at least found references too it.
NOW there is the issue of the Library in Alexandria and what it actually contained before it was damaged by Christian fanatics and then finally destroyed by Islamic conquerors. We don't know everything that was in there.
However, we do know of the existence of a lot of books because they are referenced by other authors. So there are Byzantine writers who reference older history and military treatises and quote passages from those books.
But the books themselves are gone (or undiscovered, ex: the Dead Sea Scrolls).
There is a lot of 'false' history floating around based on propaganda. For example, if you review the Spanish Inquisition archive in Seville (yes they still exist) you will see they didn't consider "witchcraft" a crime but considered belief in witches an insanity. People were not condemned to the stake for "witchcraft" in Seville.
However in Protestant Reformation Europe, belief in "witchcraft" was very strong and they constantly burned people for practicing the dark arts. The last women brunt at the stake (not for witchcraft) in Great Britain was burnt in, I think, 1782(?).
No Iron Maiden has ever been found south of the Pyrenees.
Yet because of Hollywood (in a country where the establishment is WASP) people in the US associate both burning witches and the IM with the CATHOLIC inquisition. Conveniently forgetting that the only witch trials in the US were conducted by Protestant fundamentalists.
So will I swear on a stack of bibles that one NEVER existed, no. But until you can show me otherwise, I'll bet a load of money on it didn't.
There is one more thing to factor in, literacy was uncommon until the Enlightenment and even then didn't really get to the masses until the late 18th Century. Books even more so, many a rich person prided themselves on actually owning a few books. What would be the purpose of writing a torture manual for such a limited audience who I'd bet publically (like the Victorians and kinky sex) thought such information was beneath them as the 'elite' of their societies.
After all, even later Roman writers pilloried Caligula for his 'perverted' interests. One of which seems to be inflicting pain. So why would a learned person, part of the intelligentsia, stoop to writing about something so base and abhorrent as "torture" unless it was to make a larger point?
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I found two different sources on my language...ESPECIALLY the Russian internet
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