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Still musing philosophically in response to what Frank said above - I can imagine such a machine that could analyse and distinguish all the chemical components making up the tastes of different whiskies. And you could teach it to recognise the kinds you like best. So it could even taste a sample of whisky and say, for example, 'This is a 20 year old Laphraoig, Sir, I think you would like it.' But what I don't think any machine could ever truthfully say would be "This is a 20 year old Laphraoig, I like it myself.' :drink:

The day an artificial entity can genuinely use the term "myself", I will be prepared to believe it can express a personal preference.

What we in 2019 call AI are really just expert systems, massive databases with algorithms attached. No consciousness, as far as we can tell. But then, what is consciousness? The Turing Test doesn't cut it, we already have chat bots handling customer queries online. Are they conscious, I don't think so.

But what is this thing, the holy grail of AI? Robert Penrose suspected that human consciousness may partially operate within the laws of quantum physics. Quantum computing exists today, though practical real world use may still be a little way off.

What exactly is this naked girl reading?....Tree? :rolleyes:

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The woman on the cover is packing a hand gun, so it must be a profile of our own Tree, and therefore a warning to womankind.
 
The day an artificial entity can genuinely use the term "myself", I will be prepared to believe it can express a personal preference.

What we in 2019 call AI are really just expert systems, massive databases with algorithms attached. No consciousness, as far as we can tell. But then, what is consciousness? The Turing Test doesn't cut it, we already have chat bots handling customer queries online. Are they conscious, I don't think so.

But what is this thing, the holy grail of AI? Robert Penrose suspected that human consciousness may partially operate within the laws of quantum physics. Quantum computing exists today, though practical real world use may still be a little way off.



The woman on the cover is packing a hand gun, so it must be a profile of our own Tree, and therefore a warning to womankind.

Mmmmm ... an AI system must be sentient (aware of itself as a separate identity) as well as sapient (smart) before it can properly be considered an AI. Otherwise, as you say it is just an expert system, running algorithms which are applied to inputs/data in various creative ways.
 
In 2004 Everybody loves Raymond aired an episode called P.T.and A which became my favorite of the series. I was 22 years old at the time and as some of you know had a major crush for Patrica Heaton who played Debra on that show.Below are a few screen shots of her from that episode.

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Others had crushes and more on Ms. Heaton, to the point of numerous fake and deepfake porn pics of her on the web, which I decline to post, but if you’re curious they’re easy to find.
 
I'm actually looking at some of those pics of her as we speak.

One of my own hopeless crushes is Ellen Page, and although there are fakes aplenty of her, well, she bats for the other team, and I can’t get comfortable fantasizing about someone who ain’t interested.

*sigh*
 

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Still musing philosophically in response to what Frank said above - I can imagine such a machine that could analyse and distinguish all the chemical components making up the tastes of different whiskies. And you could teach it to recognise the kinds you like best. So it could even taste a sample of whisky and say, for example, 'This is a 20 year old Laphraoig, Sir, I think you would like it.' But what I don't think any machine could ever truthfully say would be "This is a 20 year old Laphraoig, I like it myself.' :drink:
Well, you are getting into the weeds here. What do you mean by "like"? It's like the debate about "consciousness". Is "like" just brain patterns? Then you have to worry about what it means to say you are "not in the mood" for something you "like" (it could be just a "headache", right?). With enough memory, a machine could learn your brain patterns and know when you "like" something, and based on its monitoring of your past behavior predict what you would "like" by monitoring your brain. If you want to throw in a "soul", you still have problems, because the "soul" acts differently at different times. Does your dear departed teetotaling Aunt Millie impinge on your soul at times and affect what you "like"? You still have the problem of prediction even if you are not a materialist. The alternative is to say that you are "random" and unpredictable--that would not be an attractive option for most people.

As for whether DarkPrincess' claim that an artificial tongue can replace a real one, it all depends on the purpose to which the tongue is put and the design. A friend of mine once played me a song about automation, where the protagonist was relegated to turning the machine off and on. I think the last two stanzas speak to the question of an adequate artificial tongue:

The world's not what it used to be
In love or war or industry.
We face the harsh reality
That this sweet land of liberty
Now contemplates eternity
Plugged into electricity
And programmed by technology
For maximum efficiency.
For instance, see
What happened to me...

When I went down to the factory,
I said, "Hey, you got any job for me?"
They said, "Son, the days of the workin' man
Are dead and gone."
They said, "Computer now does everything
But there does happen to be one opening
For the man who'll turn the damn thing off and on."

Now I'm the man who turns the damn thing off and on.
I give it a twist in the evening like this
And a little bitty flick at dawn.
I know I should be overjoyed.
I'm the only one in town employed.
I'm the man who turns the damn thing off and on.

So, feelin' exhausted from my first day's labor,
I went home to see my baby.
She was lyin' in bed with a smile on her face,
And I heard a buzzin' sound.
She said, "I don't need no mortal men.
This vibrator does the work of ten,
But since you're so in love with me,
I'll let you stick around
And be the man who turns the damn thing off and on."

I give it a twist in the evening like this
And a little bitty flick at dawn.
I know I should be gratified...
She lets me lie here by her side
And be the man who turns the damn thing off and on.
 
Others had crushes and more on Ms. Heaton, to the point of numerous fake and deepfake porn pics of her on the web, which I decline to post, but if you’re curious they’re easy to find.
And several sex and/or BDSM stories about her character.

The episode
 
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