Judicial Corporal Punishment Of Women: Illustrations

[windar]

View attachment 532403 This one is very interesting ... are you sure that it is an authentic American newspaper engraving from 1878? While it seems plausible that a white woman might be publicly flogged for stealing, it seems improbable to me that a black man would be allowed to whip her, especially in a state like Virginia. I suppose if she were a prostitute or some form of low life, that might make sense. But otherwise, I find it remarkable.

It is, whatever it's true provenance, a great pic ... one that certainly draws my attention and which conjures up lots of stories in my mind.

I'm pretty sure legal flogging of women was no longer done by 1878 and certainly a white woman flogged by a black man would have been verboten. But it's a nice picture, of course. And I posted a story very recently that is at least somewhat related http://www.cruxforums.com/xf/threads/visiting-the-jackson-plantation.6321/

 

[elephas]

View attachment 532403 This one is very interesting ... are you sure that it is an authentic American newspaper engraving from 1878? While it seems plausible that a white woman might be publicly flogged for stealing, it seems improbable to me that a black man would be allowed to whip her, especially in a state like Virginia. I suppose if she were a prostitute or some form of low life, that might make sense. But otherwise, I find it remarkable.

https://www.granger.com/results.asp?inline=true&image=0093012&screenwidth=1920
https://fineartamerica.com/products/whipping-post-1878-granger-poster.html
This pic also seems strange to me, maybe it's a fake, but other images at this site look believable.

 

[elephas]

I really like the first one. Calling Dorothy Brown.. But I must ask what that device is in the second one.

NEWGATE PRISON, 1873. A guard showing visitors the flogging machine at Newgate Prison in London. Wood engraving, English, 1873.
https://www.granger.com/results.asp?inline=true&image=0268366&wwwflag=4&itemx=101
https://fineartamerica.com/featured/6-newgate-prison-1873-granger.html

 

[Marcius]

View attachment 532403 This one is very interesting ... are you sure that it is an authentic American newspaper engraving from 1878? While it seems plausible that a white woman might be publicly flogged for stealing, it seems improbable to me that a black man would be allowed to whip her, especially in a state like Virginia. I suppose if she were a prostitute or some form of low life, that might make sense. But otherwise, I find it remarkable.

It is, whatever it's true provenance, a great pic ... one that certainly draws my attention and which conjures up lots of stories in my mind.

It is authentic, yet the girl was -- most likely -- clothed.

 

[windar]

It is authentic, yet the girl was -- most likely -- clothed.

I stand corrected. And so did she

 

[elephas]

It is authentic, yet the girl was -- most likely -- clothed.

Marcius, it's incredible how quickly you found the truth about this fact and dispelled our doubts!

 

[Eulalia]

I stand corrected. And so did she

But only 'mildly' so

 

[elephas]

P. Fusty
Illustrations from the novel "En 1592, Le Tour d'Europe d'un Flagellant" (1909) by Lord Birchisgood.

 

[old slave]

It is authentic, yet the girl was -- most likely -- clothed.

But note the salacious 'false news' that came before the truth.

 

[Dorothy Brown]

How is it i have never seen this thread before
i was looking at Vlad`s profile and saw he was
looking at this thread so now i have found it.
what is Calling Dorothy Brown , just curious.
Flogging never really appeals to me but being
flogged by a black man would be very erotic.
i love the cane, banned in school nowadays
but being taken to the headmasters study,
he locks the door, i strip naked, caned on both
hands, then caned to tears on my bare bum
that is my thing and one thing i have taught
my husband is how to use the cane,
SHIT, I just burnt my hand making a cup
of tea

 

[windar]

what is Calling Dorothy Brown , just curious.

being
flogged by a black man would be very erotic.

It was my guess that you would say that

 

[Dorothy Brown]

It was my guess that you would say that

You Know Me So Well, but in my mind
receiving a flogging from a black man
is my way of repayment for the sins
of my forebears, hung from a tree branch
by a group of black men is a very eroric
thought too , but i must be naked

 

[Marcius]

A good pic of a girl flogged in, I think, late 18th century England; I cannot source it.

 

[elephas]

Old Engravings, part 2

 

[elephas]

Poser CP Art

 

[elephas]

Poser CP Art

 

[Naraku]

View attachment 534492
A good pic of a girl flogged in, I think, late 18th century England; I cannot source it.

It is an 1813 etching, possibly by George Cruikshank, depicting the 1746 punishment of Mary Hamilton, alias George Hamilton, a cross-dressing woman who tricked several women into marring her/him.
The sentence was very interesting (my italics):
"That the he or she prisoner at the bar is an uncommon, notorious cheat, and we, the Court, do sentence her, or him, whichever he or she may be, to be imprisoned six months, and during that time to be whipped in the towns of Taunton, Glastonbury, Wells and Shepton Mallet, and to find security for good behaviour as long as they, the learned justices aforesaid, shall or may, in their wisdom and judgment, require."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Hamilton_(transvestite)
http://www.pascalbonenfant.com/18c/newgatecalendar/mary_hamilton.html

 

[Loxuru]

Old Engravings, part 2

The #6 is a manip from an etching, showing the torture of a schoolteacher named Ursula, in Maastricht, then the Spanish Netherlands, in 1570. Accused of heresy, she was subsequently burned at the stake.

 

[elephas]

Naraku and Loxuru, thanks for the historical comments!

 

[Loxuru]

Naraku and Loxuru, thanks for the historical comments!

You're welcome! Thanks for posting!

She is flogged for speaking in favour of the French revolution in conservative Prussia? Her husband has to assist her punishment from nearby?