Bondage / Captivity / Interrogation / Torture Scenes in Mainstream Movies

[JoeyRainbow]

Thank you.

 

[hammers]

Thank you.

It has been a pleasure

 

[Mastodont]

 

[JoeyRainbow]

The torture was hot, but Jesus H Christ, Chuck Norris stuff is like a bad soap opera. So fucking cheesy.

 

[Jon Smithie]

The torture was hot, but Jesus H Christ, Chuck Norris stuff is like a bad soap opera. So fucking cheesy.

I'm sure you've heard Chuck Norris jokes. Some of my favorites are:

Chuck Norris has counted to infinity. . . twice.

Chuck Norris never reads books. He just stares them down until he gets the information he wants.

Chuck Norris' tears cure cancer. Too bad he has never cried.

There's a million of 'em.

 

[Venom]

I'm sure you've heard Chuck Norris jokes. Some of my favorites are:

Chuck Norris has counted to infinity. . . twice.

Chuck Norris never reads books. He just stares them down until he gets the information he wants.

Chuck Norris' tears cure cancer. Too bad he has never cried.

There's a million of 'em.

Actually, those are not Chuck Norris jokes -- they are Chuck Norris facts.

When Chuck Norris jumps into water, he doesn't get wet -- the water gets Chuck Norris.

Based on this finding, several German news outlets put out variations of the following headline for his eightieth birthday:

"80 wird Chuck Norris" ("80 turns Chuck Norris")*

Another one:

Jesus walks across water -- Chuck Norris swims through stone.


* for example:

Chuck Norris wird nicht 80. Die 80 wird Chuck Norris.

Sein Roundhouse-Kick ist legendär, er selbst eine Legende. Chuck Norris - Schauspieler, aber eigentlich viel mehr als das - wird heute 80.

www.augsburger-allgemeine.de

 

[Mastodont]

Can you make a short story dedicated to this scene?

 

[nsur1]

This is a scene from Episode 9 of the 2015 Russian TV series "ВЕЛИКАЯ", one of the bewilderingly many recent TV costume dramas retelling the story of Catherine The Great's ascent to the Russian throne. The episode (and indeed the entire series) is on Youtube in full 1080p and English subtitles under the name "Catherine The Great": Link

I haven't watched the entire series, so I'm not entirely clear on how precisely the scene fits in, but it comes at a point when a plot against the old Empress Elizabeth that Catherine (as Crown Princess) was involved in has been uncovered. The scene shows Catherine to be tortured and interrogated by the Empress to give up her co-conspirators, and ends with her being condemned to be executed.

Spoiler alert:

Spoiler

It's a dream sequence and she wakes up in her own bed at the end, having been pardoned for changing sides just in time.

I'm not sure it makes much sense to torture a woman with a torch while she's wearing a dress -- I presume it's for the same anti-nudity rules that resulted in the clothed floggings in Крепостная.



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[Mr. 0]

This is a scene from Episode 9 of the 2015 Russian TV series "ВЕЛИКАЯ", one of the bewilderingly many recent TV costume dramas retelling the story of Catherine The Great's ascent to the Russian throne. The episode (and indeed the entire series) is on Youtube in full 1080p and English subtitles under the name "Catherine The Great": Link

I haven't watched the entire series, so I'm not entirely clear on how precisely the scene fits in, but it comes at a point when a plot against the old Empress Elizabeth that Catherine (as Crown Princess) was involved in has been uncovered. The scene shows Catherine to be tortured and interrogated by the Empress to give up her co-conspirators, and ends with her being condemned to be executed.

Spoiler alert:

Spoiler

It's a dream sequence and she wakes up in her own bed at the end, having been pardoned for changing sides just in time.

I'm not sure it makes much sense to torture a woman with a torch while she's wearing a dress -- I presume it's for the same anti-nudity rules that resulted in the clothed floggings in Крепостная.

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There is an anti-nudity rule in Russia now?

Never realized Russia is so conservative like that.

 

[nsur1]

There is an anti-nudity rule in Russia now?

Never realized Russia is so conservative like that.

To clarify, I don't know what the rules are on nudity in Russian mainstream TV drama -- for all I know it may be like in the UK where nudity is only allowed if broadcast after 9pm (which doesn't make sense anymore in the age of streaming). However, I found it noticeable that both of these big expensive costume drama productions were happy with lingering shots of violence and torture of women, but always fully-dressed. Possibly also because to break even they need to sell into other more conservative TV markets worldwide, e.g. the Middle East. [NB: "Крепостная" was a Ukrainian rather than Russian production, but it was shot in Russian and (I believe) shown on Russian TV]

 

[shvonder]

The German noblewoman Fike (Sophie Auguste Friederike von Anhalt-Zerbst-Dornburg) (Catherine II the Great) really wove frivolous conspiracies against the then current Russian Empress Elizabeth. But Elizabeth, knowing this, forgave her everything, seeing in her the future great empress.
The torture scene in the series is a terrible dream that Catherine dreams of.

 

[Mr. 0]

To clarify, I don't know what the rules are on nudity in Russian mainstream TV drama -- for all I know it may be like in the UK where nudity is only allowed if broadcast after 9pm (which doesn't make sense anymore in the age of streaming). However, I found it noticeable that both of these big expensive costume drama productions were happy with lingering shots of violence and torture of women, but always fully-dressed. Possibly also because to break even they need to sell into other more conservative TV markets worldwide, e.g. the Middle East. [NB: "Крепостная" was a Ukrainian rather than Russian production, but it was shot in Russian and (I believe) shown on Russian TV]

Thank you for the explanation.

 

[Jon Smithie]

bewilderingly many recent TV costume dramas retelling the story of Catherine The Great's ascent to the Russian throne.

Lol. I enjoy costume dramas myself, and quite agree that Catherine the Great seems to be all the rage now. Just occurred to me--I wonder if it has anything to do with Xyulo - wanted by criminal international court in The Hague's rise to power?

I'm not entirely clear on how precisely the scene fits in, but it comes at a point when a plot against the old Empress Elizabeth that Catherine (as Crown Princess) was involved in has been uncovered.

I had posted a scene from another Catherine the Great series (Ekaterina, 2015) earlier I think on this thread, but can't find it. So I found the scene on Tubi and am reposting it here.

Catherine's mother has been corresponding with the Prussian king Frederick the Great; basically spying on the court of the current Czarina, Elizabeth. Elizabeth discovers the correspondence and confronts both Catherine and Catherine's mother. Perhaps this is the incident that Catherine is dreaming about in your post, although I suppose there may have been more than one intrigue going on to give Catherine bad dreams.

I'm not sure it makes much sense to torture a woman with a torch while she's wearing a dress

Catherine, as I imagine, being prepared for torture without her dress.

 

[nsur1]

Catherine's mother has been corresponding with the Prussian king Frederick the Great; basically spying on the court of the current Czarina, Elizabeth. Elizabeth discovers the correspondence and confronts both Catherine and Catherine's mother. Perhaps this is the incident that Catherine is dreaming about in your post, although I suppose there may have been more than one intrigue going on to give Catherine bad dreams.

Thanks, Jon - I remember you commenting on that other series, and thought that this scene is precisely what you said was missing in the other one!

I have now also watched the preceding episode prior to the torture scene, and at least within the plot (and possibly also historical truth), the conspiracy is real enough -- in the previous episode, Elisabeth tells Catherine that her co-conspirators have confessed and have accused her of involvement in the plot. She denies everything and demands to confront her accusers, to which the Empress gives the dry response "I hope you have a strong stomach -- they have been tortured." Later in the episode Elisabeth explicitly threatens Catherine with torture and puts armed guards outside her quarters (initially also inside her quarters). Catherine is also given a choice of either life imprisonment or being sent to a convent, although Elisabeth doesn't then act on either threat. So, when the torture scene comes it is not necessarily unexpected to the viewer although it is a jump cut from the previous scene which showed general tension but no imminent arrest. It only becomes clear that it is a dream sequence when she wakes up with a start in her own bed (at the end of my edit).

 

[geolier]

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Ok. She is naked. But no glimpse at her pubic hair. A pity.

 

[Harsh Martinet]

Ok. She is naked. But no glimpse at her pubic hair. A pity.

Sadly nowadays even if they are facing toward the camera, still no public hair

 

[geolier]

Sadly nowadays even if they are facing toward the camera, still no public hair

There is a discussion about this elsewhwere, but I repeat, I find this a pity.

 

[Venom]

Witch Hunt (2021)

In present-day alternative USA witchcraft is real, and those practising it are hunted down in a very traditional fashion.

Consequently, the film opens with a BATS scene of adequate realism. Later on a modernised form of the dunking test to expose witches is depict. As an interesting detail the participants are fitted with respirators prior to being submerged -- can't let any innocents drown, now can we?



As you may already be able to tell by my scarce report, I haven't seen the entire film; only sought out the scenes in question thanks to my fine sense for all things macabre.

 

[nsur1]

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Witch Hunt (2021)

In present-day alternative USA witchcraft is real, and those practising it are hunted down in a very traditional fashion.

Consequently, the film opens with a BATS scene of adequate realism. Later on a modernised form of the dunking test to expose witches is depict. As an interesting detail the participants are fitted with respirators prior to being submerged -- can't let any innocents drown, now can we?

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As you may already be able to tell by my scarce report, I haven't seen the entire film; only sought out the scenes in question thanks to my fine sense for all things macabre.

Thanks for the heads-up, @Venom . I found a dodgy Russian-overdubbed rip online -- the pre-title BATS scene is pretty much the only explicit scene, and as it is quite short (just over a minute), I have clipped and uploaded it below -- apologies for the Russian dub, but there is very little speech in the scene anyway. The dunking scene makes little sense, at least from the Russian-dubbed version I have (I don't speak Russian), and is not much to look at so I haven't bothered with it.

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[mp5stab]

I can’t wait to see the English scene. I heard that it’s on a few streaming services.