Praefectus Praetorio
R.I.P. Brother of the Quill
I humbly admitted my error. I also apologize.
I somehow missed your apology for shutting down three popular threads with no notice or explanations.
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What sort of Images are Appropriate to Post on the Forums - Discussion Thread
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I somehow missed your apology for shutting down three popular threads with no notice or explanations.
Top Cat was also an arsehole, which is what actually got him banned.
From the beginning this place was mixed, with general bdsm sections as well as crux. This distinguished it from the Crux Foundation which was solely crux related. Since those days we have had a significant growth in non bdsm threads as well. Some members like that, and some don't.
windar
Teller of Tales
That crap steps on my toes. And it hurts! Would you please get your foot off of there? Thanks.
How about a story: Let's imagine a poor writer. Call them BarbaWindarFossyPraetorio et al. They slave away over a hot keyboard to compose a chapter. They have to consume copious amounts of caffeine to stay focused. Finally, after many hours, it's done. They relax. They post. It goes to the top of "Latest Posts". They can hope that lots of people see it and read it. Then, 10 min later someone adds to 5 existing naked women threads, it drops out of Latest Posts and their hopes are dashed. Then they turn to alcohol and die a few years later of chronic liver disease....
Is "Latest Posts" really how most viewers find threads? If so, that does make the whole forum into something like a zero-sum game, where every thread is a competitor to each other. I didn't realise it was such a dog-eat-dog place...
Loinclothslave
slave to the whip
How else do we find new posts without that tool when the robot forgets to alert us? But I tend to look at more than the top ten. I discovered a really nice new member posting well written crux stories just 2 days ago this way.
the new threads post is good, again if the robot remembers I’m following it!
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montycrusto
Guest
Yennefer of something or other?
The follow function really needs fixing. No thread should be unfollowed save by choice.
An the other way is... looking at the forums? So if you look at Crucifixion, or any other one, the number of pic threads in Fantasy Unlimited doesn't affect what you see at all. They're not really in competiion.
I am personally convinced that:
1) this argument has now degenerated to the point where it is no longer likely to resolve any issues.
2) people do not come to CF to argue about whether they should post images, either original or "reposts".
3) We have a few rules (no excessive gore, no children, etc.) - I think we do not need a lot more - we do not want to be a totally rules-based forum.
4) There are steps that can be taken voluntarily by artists to promote or showcase their work (e.g. tagging or re-labeling threads), which have been suggested by members. These can be implemented on a voluntary basis by those who wish to do it, and we can all see whether there is success.
5) The number of images being posted is not a cost issue to this forum, according to IM. This is a matter of our preferences. In that context, I am not personally that concerned about people posting images. As a staff member, I will continue to move "off topic" posts to more appropriate areas, as I see them. If members want pictures of "fat bottomed girls" (as Freddie Mercury might say), or other non-crux images, whatever. For now, let's just keep them in Fantasy Unlimited.
6) This unnecessary and unhelpful bickering over issues that look like they will never produce consensus of any sort IS likely an issue related to cost, insofar as keeping the forums going relies on the good will of members.
7) This forum is not a democracy - IM owns it. IM sets the rules. Moderators moderate and administer (hopefully to the advantage of both IM and members).
I suggested this thread to propose ideas and thoughts (originally about not hijacking other people's threads), which many members have done, but not to drive immediately to a solution voted on by a majority, to establish a parliamentary process, or run a Brexit-like poll. As mp5stab said, we signed up for the artwork and stayed for the culture. You don't build a culture by imposing things on people, in my view. We get to know each other, we try to be considerate of each other, and the point of this discussion should not be to "win" the argument. The forum is a kind of living thing, like a plant, and I feel that you can't just hack away at it and hope it will thrive.
Now, I'd like to get back to doing some writing, and posting a few manips here and there. I will think about how to tell you all about that "original" work when I do.
1) this argument has now degenerated to the point where it is no longer likely to resolve any issues.
2) people do not come to CF to argue about whether they should post images, either original or "reposts".
3) We have a few rules (no excessive gore, no children, etc.) - I think we do not need a lot more - we do not want to be a totally rules-based forum.
4) There are steps that can be taken voluntarily by artists to promote or showcase their work (e.g. tagging or re-labeling threads), which have been suggested by members. These can be implemented on a voluntary basis by those who wish to do it, and we can all see whether there is success.
5) The number of images being posted is not a cost issue to this forum, according to IM. This is a matter of our preferences. In that context, I am not personally that concerned about people posting images. As a staff member, I will continue to move "off topic" posts to more appropriate areas, as I see them. If members want pictures of "fat bottomed girls" (as Freddie Mercury might say), or other non-crux images, whatever. For now, let's just keep them in Fantasy Unlimited.
6) This unnecessary and unhelpful bickering over issues that look like they will never produce consensus of any sort IS likely an issue related to cost, insofar as keeping the forums going relies on the good will of members.
7) This forum is not a democracy - IM owns it. IM sets the rules. Moderators moderate and administer (hopefully to the advantage of both IM and members).
I suggested this thread to propose ideas and thoughts (originally about not hijacking other people's threads), which many members have done, but not to drive immediately to a solution voted on by a majority, to establish a parliamentary process, or run a Brexit-like poll. As mp5stab said, we signed up for the artwork and stayed for the culture. You don't build a culture by imposing things on people, in my view. We get to know each other, we try to be considerate of each other, and the point of this discussion should not be to "win" the argument. The forum is a kind of living thing, like a plant, and I feel that you can't just hack away at it and hope it will thrive.
Now, I'd like to get back to doing some writing, and posting a few manips here and there. I will think about how to tell you all about that "original" work when I do.
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crumera
Crucifier of Pixels
5 not a cost issue? since when?
I clearly remember this being an issue according to IM the first time with server hindrances where only a part of the thumbnails were loaded.
Or was that just BS?
So I can post big PNG files without the forums needing more money everytime?
I clearly remember this being an issue according to IM the first time with server hindrances where only a part of the thumbnails were loaded.
Or was that just BS?
So I can post big PNG files without the forums needing more money everytime?
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Praefectus Praetorio
R.I.P. Brother of the Quill
Unfortunately, none of us really know the answer. Only IM gets the bills and could know if thousands of additional postings of thumbnails add to the cost of the site (and if there is a different cost to jpg vs png). If there is a cost, it would be good information to share, at least with the contributors.
We know there is a cost associated with posting full-size images - so we use thumbnails. There was an issue of cost earlier, but that seems to have been associated with slow payment of the fees, resulting in reduced service. The point I was trying to make, however, is that the number of images is less a threat to the forums than constant animosity every time we try to have a discussion about something.
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Praefectus Praetorio
R.I.P. Brother of the Quill
You are very correct, and I apologize for the extent to which I fed the animosity.
Sure. I think it’s a good step in the right direction.
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The Fallen Angel
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Under the thread title on the left is a tag symbol. I've been told that you don't have to be a member to use it. Please try it and if it doesn't work for non admin then let me know.
dfg42
Senator
the fewer the better, but why do we not make the rule, that with a pic there must be a storyline, even just a thought. Pictures we can find all in the net, but when someone defines a story with it, or explain his thought about that specific pic, it is much more interesting.
mvalim
Magistrate
Wow, sir, you are really a sophisticated pervert!Sign me up!
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(original art by me, yay!)
… and I’ll start a “pies and pastries” thread, yum!
Pets? OK, if pets are connected, by some way, with your "dark fantasies" - why not.
I beg a pardon if the following example will seem inappropriate to someone, but...
Maybe, it connects rather with such topics, as "anime pictures". I remember that Deviantart had a lot of artists who created sadistic or pornographic works with many popular characters from cartoons and so on. Pictures of anime girls in perils, hanged, shooted etc. is a giant industry. Clearly, fat ladies or barefoot girls can specifically inspire dark fantasies in some people. I think that the main criterion that some materials are appropriate is the feedback. If a post receives likes and comments, it means that it find its audience here! It's hard to imagine that some of visitors of a forum, which topic is dark fantasies, would give likes to any material, if it does not inspire their fantasy...
Loinclothslave
slave to the whip
Works for me, great move!
Praefectus Praetorio
R.I.P. Brother of the Quill
Sorry dfg. You are responding to a post that was a figment of your imagination. As per 1984, history is being erased and rewritten before our eyes. Sorry @Loinclothslave1 , you and I just dreamed that you also responded to a non-existent poll.
Do I want to 'forbid" a poll? Not if I can't see it.
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