Humiliation? Does it still work?

[dfg42]

We have different theories about crucifixion. Naturally it is a death penalty and as such it is a punishment you surely don't want. But it was also a special horrible punishment in the roman times, for the roman citizen due to nudity, flogging, rape and not so sure a death dance on a cornu. I made an assessment for a imagined or real reenactment or BDSM play and found the astonishing numbers, that the males here would do more or less without problems

nudity (being nude on the cross, so little Jesus is visible...) to 94.1%
a staged rape (naturally less cumbersome as a real) to astonishly 52.3 %
and would sit on a cornu (must be a dildo like thing for not harming anyone) to assopening 69.3 % (so 2/3 of males......)

So that could be a problem for the re-introduction of crucifixion as modern punishment. So I try to find out the motivations... The answers are hopefully anonym and you have or to have not to answer multiple times, except you are a female, then live is easier as you know it and you have only one answer....

Probably the pic will help




Oh, to explain: Me I consider to be hetero, but have sometimes sex (passive) with males. Please don't tell, except those young good-looking and well-equipped males who like to fuck me .....
Would mean 2,4 and 6.

 

[Tenterden]

Once I'm tied to the cross my loincloth will be ripped off before I'm lifted up

 

[dfg42]

Once I'm tied to the cross my loincloth will be ripped off before I'm lifted up

Just for the audience, would it not be more theatrical if you would be first lifted to the cross and then(!) the loincloth is ripped apart?

 

[Tenterden]

Sounds good

 

[Tenterden]

like this after being stripped

 

[culus]

We have different theories about crucifixion. Naturally it is a death penalty and as such it is a punishment you surely don't want. But it was also a special horrible punishment in the roman times, for the roman citizen due to nudity, flogging, rape and not so sure a death dance on a cornu. I made an assessment for a imagined or real reenactment or BDSM play and found the astonishing numbers, that the males here would do more or less without problems

nudity (being nude on the cross, so little Jesus is visible...) to 94.1%
a staged rape (naturally less cumbersome as a real) to astonishly 52.3 %
and would sit on a cornu (must be a dildo like thing for not harming anyone) to assopening 69.3 % (so 2/3 of males......)

So that could be a problem for the re-introduction of crucifixion as modern punishment. So I try to find out the motivations... The answers are hopefully anonym and you have or to have not to answer multiple times, except you are a female, then live is easier as you know it and you have only one answer....

Probably the pic will help

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Oh, to explain: Me I consider to be hetero, but have sometimes sex (passive) with males. Please don't tell, except those young good-looking and well-equipped males who like to fuck me .....
Would mean 2,4 and 6.

As a naturist in my heart and living life naked I can't say that the aspect of being nude on the cross would be humiliating. If one is modest, as a majority of people are, it would be terribly humiliating to be stripped stark naked in public. However, the physical agonies of crucifixion would quickly overtake that humiliation as one struggled for life, tied/nailed to the cross.

As a gay man and proud bottom I would not be humiliated at being anally raped in public, as everyone would know that is what I submit to and enjoy in private. A gang rape would satisfy the prurient desires of the spectators. Now, the force of the assault and the number of assailants, while not humiliating, could prove to be painful and damaging. A gang rape/gangsta fuck is no picnic and a prolapsed anus/torn and bleeding rectum, etc. is not a pretty sight, nor safe. My MASTER is extremely careful in who HE permits to use me, both orally and anally, and has trained both orifices to accommodate a variety of endowments. A male or female condemned to be crucified would not be so lucky and their rectums and vaginas would most likely be destroyed as a prelude to the main event.

As far as riding the cornu, I find it stimulating to be impaled upon one during crucifixion and my MASTER ties me into the most obscene position possible so that the stuffed and stretched anus is completely exposed to spectators. That signifies that my most intimate orifice is being violated and I am helpless to prevent it.

All of this being said, I realize that play and exhibitionism are voluntary and a real-time fulfillment of crux fantasies. The brutal reality is something entirely different.

 

[dfg42]

As a gay man and proud bottom I would not be humiliated at being anally raped in public, as everyone would know that is what I submit to and enjoy in private. A gang rape would satisfy the prurient desires of the spectators. Now, the force of the assault and the number of assailants, while not humiliating, could prove to be painful and damaging. A gang rape/gangsta fuck is no picnic and a prolapsed anus/torn and bleeding rectum, etc. is not a pretty sight, nor safe. My MASTER is extremely careful in who HE permits to use me, both orally and anally, and has trained both orifices to accommodate a variety of endowments. A male or female condemned to be crucified would not be so lucky and their rectums and vaginas would most likely be destroyed as a prelude to the main event.

Let us suppose that the health issues are taking care of, I could imagine that even if you don't like it, you can accept it as part of the game...

As far as riding the cornu, I find it stimulating to be impaled upon one during crucifixion and my MASTER ties me into the most obscene position possible so that the stuffed and stretched anus is completely exposed to spectators. That signifies that my most intimate orifice is being violated and I am helpless to prevent it.

All of this being said, I realize that play and exhibitionism are voluntary and a real-time fulfillment of crux fantasies. The brutal reality is something entirely different.

Here my point is, is dildo in ass still regarded as gay practise or should it be just another sexual practise. Think of the pegging done by 'normal' pairs, actually we do not recommend, since a penis is softer and males better know what to do with it than females.... So far this seems not to be the case. Told the story by Ivonne I guess already.

 

[culus]

Let us suppose that the health issues are taking care of, I could imagine that even if you don't like it, you can accept it as part of the game...

Here my point is, is dildo in ass still regarded as gay practise or should it be just another sexual practise. Think of the pegging done by 'normal' pairs, actually we do not recommend, since a penis is softer and males better know what to do with it than females.... So far this seems not to be the case. Told the story by Ivonne I guess already.

There are a percentage of gays who don't practice anal sex. There are a percentage of heterosexual women who submit to anal sex, but many who don't enjoy it. For the guards it would have made no difference and any hole would suffice. As far as crux play, trust is vital among willing participants.

Some of the more deviant Roman emperors kept stables of enormous Nubian "vulgarians" who job it was to sexually molest hapless condemned men and women in front of an audience, either in a coliseum setting or in the palace. From contemporary accounts it seems that the victims were paraded naked into the arena or onto a stage by Imperial guards, at which time the Nubians would enter and, to the delight of the assembled audience, chase down and then molest their prey. The crowd would roar with laughter and cheer heartily as the big Blacks would fuck the mouths, asses and vaginas of the struggling victims. Men and women both would be spit roasted, fisted - every manner of sexual act. Caligula's dream orgy, no doubt.

The cornu is synonymous with punishment and humiliation. It could be both to an unwilling victim.

 

[dfg42]

The cornu is synonymous with punishment and humiliation. It could be both to an unwilling victim.

As long as you find the unwilling victims



and not one unwilling victims is left over.

 

[culus]

Hung, spread, plugged and tied. Let's go!

 

[Loxuru]

The questionnaire is a bit paradoxical. Questions 7-8 don’t apply to me, but the other six, I actual cannot answer them, because none of these acts sound ‘likable’ to me. Because they are humiliating. What’s the paradox? There is an exciting attraction of the humiliating aspects related to undergoing a Roman style crucifixion, but they are inevitably related to the psychological context of a ‘real’ punishment. Staging humiliation does not attract me, because it would be staged. The humiliation must be part of the larger picture of a real punishment. If, in some staged setting, a ‘master’ would behave in such a bullying and humiliating way, I would probably call the safeword, or otherwise I could burst into laughter!

 

[dfg42]

The questionnaire is a bit paradoxical. Questions 7-8 don’t apply to me, but the other six, I actual cannot answer them, because none of these acts sound ‘likable’ to me. Because they are humiliating. What’s the paradox? There is an exciting attraction of the humiliating aspects related to undergoing a Roman style crucifixion, but they are inevitably related to the psychological context of a ‘real’ punishment. Staging humiliation does not attract me, because it would be staged. The humiliation must be part of the larger picture of a real punishment. If, in some staged setting, a ‘master’ would behave in such a bullying and humiliating way, I would probably call the safeword, or otherwise I could burst into laughter!

Not answering is an option. If you are humiliated exposing your dick, there is not much to stage (well with an artificial device... we leave out). The problem I like to address in an nudist society there is no way being humiliated by being nude, so that "punishment" runs into emptiness. The cornu is a humiliation in Roman times due to their twisted relation to homosexuality. I can not see a humiliation, due to the fact that it is not your choice to get penetrated and it can not be a humiliation because our society. accept homosexual people as the normalise thing on the earth. So to be humiliated with the first question you must be like him

 

[culus]

While society is more accepting of homosexuality, exposure to gay sex and naked bodies would still be considered shocking and graphic by the public at large. The sight of anal and oral sex would be a curiosity to many and a victim squirming and impaled by a large cornu buried in his hirsute asshole, would add an exotic element, much like a female vaginally impaled with her sex stretched and exposed for all eyes to see. Even an exhibitionist might experience a bit of shame at being displayed in such an obscene manner. Our visual focus would shift to their violated genitals and anuses. They would be dehumanized and reduced to nothing but their sexual organs in our minds. We would feast on the sight of their erect nipples, limp or hard penises, and any emission of fluids induced by their cornus. Their moans, whimpers and cries would serve as the auditory soundtrack for our visual enjoyment.

 

[dfg42]

While society is more accepting of homosexuality, exposure to gay sex and naked bodies would still be considered shocking and graphic by the public at large. The sight of anal and oral sex would be a curiosity to many and a victim squirming and impaled by a large cornu buried in his hirsute asshole, would add an exotic element, much like a female vaginally impaled with her sex stretched and exposed for all eyes to see. Even an exhibitionist might experience a bit of shame at being displayed in such an obscene manner. Our visual focus would shift to their violated genitals and anuses. They would be dehumanized and reduced to nothing but their sexual organs in our minds. We would feast on the sight of their erect nipples, limp or hard penises, and any emission of fluids induced by their cornus. Their moans, whimpers and cries would serve as the auditory soundtrack for our visual enjoyment.

I think that anal thing is now quite common, say with the Judas Cradle of Ron Athey



the los penetrados, where it was tried to cover all possibilities




(from Santiago Sierra in El Torax, Terrassa, Spain 2008)

And naturally the peging of Neira and Solar



we all wanked about the movies of that events.

 

[cynthia the inocent]

I dont know if it works for men, but for me it is a major turn on

 

[dfg42]

So it is a turn on for females? Strange... Actually, I prefer to be fucked by males and by males who have some experience in the passive side. I especially was looking to hire an escort offering active and passive sex for my cherry popping....

 

[culus]

So it is a turn on for females? Strange... Actually, I prefer to be fucked by males and by males who have some experience in the passive side. I especially was looking to hire an escort offering active and passive sex for my cherry popping....

Be careful what you wish for!

 

[dfg42]

Be careful what you wish for!

That fantasy I realised.

 

[culus]

That fantasy I realised.

Good for you! Getting that cherry popped is a right of passage and should be special. Hope it was a good experience.

 

[dfg42]

Good for you! Getting that cherry popped is a right of passage and should be special. Hope it was a good experience.

I thought I already told. I was 49(!) and I needed two sessions with massage before and to imagine him as black better, not best, equipped black male. Similar pic, he was a little older.