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The only person ever to be cremated before his death :eek:
No, that has happened several times. For example (1966 I believe) when a Russian Kosmos 3M rocket had problems launching. To prove that Russian technology is absolutely safe, the Russian general in charge of the launch facility sat down on a chair directly under the main engines, not a good idea. Suddenly the engine ignited anyway, there are said to have been a total of 9 deaths in this incident.
 
The only person ever to be cremated before his death :eek:
In former times, when a ship had to be launched from a shipyard, the most dangerous job was to remove the last blocks that held the hull in place, with a sledge hammer. The guy who did, had to run, once the ship (often inadvertedly) started to move, or he could get crushed. Sometimes, a condemned to death was hired for the job, with the promise of amnesty, if he would survive.
 
Eighty one years ago today, the Japanese Navy attacked the US fleet at Pearl Harbor in Hawaii, and forced America to end it's isolationist policies and enter WWII.
 
The end of an era. Yesterday (6 December) the last Boeing 747, a 747-8 Freighter, rolled out of the assembly building in Everett,WA. After 54 years and 1,574 completed, the world's first jumbo jet has ended production.
As today, only the Russian Ilyushin Il-96 is built as a four engine jet airliner, but with 30 built since 1992, and 15 in use, it hardly competes with the B747. Apparently, after the failure of the Airbus A380, the four-engine era in passenger transport seems to be over.
 
As today, only the Russian Ilyushin Il-96 is built as a four engine jet airliner, but with 30 built since 1992, and 15 in use, it hardly competes with the B747. Apparently, after the failure of the Airbus A380, the four-engine era in passenger transport seems to be over.
The commercial aviation industry has been moving away from four engine planes for quite a while now. The 747 is being phased out of operation during the next decade or so - in fact most airlines that did operate the type have retired theirs years ago, as their older engines are horrendously inefficient in terms of fuel consumption compared to the big turbofans on more modern airlines like the 777 and various Airbus models.

Even with later 747 variants being fitted with more modern engines, the nature of commercial aviation, especially in the realm of passenger transport, has changed dramatically over the last couple of decades, all of which has contributed to the decline of these giants of the sky. With more modern aircraft being built more out of lightweight composite materials, the need for four engines has diminished, with most types today using two much more efficient engines proving to be not only more efficient in terms of fuel economy, but also simplifying maintenance and generally loweing the overall complexity of manufacture.

I think the biggest factor though is fuel economy. Most airlines today, especially the smaller ones, are operating on pretty thin margins, and to remain profitable they need to get the maximum number of seats filled (which generally requires lower ticket prices, thus cutting into their operating profits, so if you can save on the huge fuel costs (in 2022 the fuel cost amounts to around 24% of total expenditure by airlines on average - for smaller airlines that are merely leasing aircraft rather than buying them outright, this can easily rise to almost 50%), then that's the only viable way to remain in the black.

I think that the 747 will continue to be operated for a while by some of the big cargo operators, if only because it still takes some beating as a heavy freighter (Mainly due to its large capacity and ability to be front-loaded, thus able to take long cargo items which could not be accommodated by side-loading types - Let's not forget that the type was originally designed to be a freighter, with Boeing only switching production to passenger versions after losing the military C-X heavy lift contract to the Lockheed C-5 Galaxy), and will probably continue to be used to specialist roles for some time. Having said that, the very last 747 having been completed yesterday, and NASA retiring their SOFIA aerial telescope (based around a heavily modified 747SP) on 29th September 2022, even the niche operations are winding down these days, so it's very much the end of an era.

As many of you in here will be aware, my father was a commercial pilot for many years throughout the 60s and into the late 80s, and was lucky enough to get to fly as First Officer on the 747 for British Airways towards the end of his active flying career, after which he began training new pilots in ground-based simulators, only occasionally getting the chance to actually fly for real.

He often commented that the 747 was very sturdy but still surprisingly nimble for its huge size and weight, making it popular with pilots all over the world. For something that looks like it should never be able to get off the ground, with its four engines looking much too small to power such a huge plane, the power-to-weight ratio was incredible, and, it's become such a classic icon of 20th century design, that it is sure to live on in the imaginations of anyone with even the slightest interest or assocciation with the world of aviation.
 
As many of you in here will be aware, my father was a commercial pilot for many years throughout the 60s and into the late 80s, and was lucky enough to get to fly as First Officer on the 747 for British Airways towards the end of his active flying career, after which he began training new pilots in ground-based simulators, only occasionally getting the chance to actually fly for real.
I wasn’t aware, and as I was reading your post, I was wondering how in the world you could be so knowledgeable about this. Now it’s clear. Your father obviously had a great career, and you picked up some quite interesting knowledge from him.
 
I wasn’t aware, and as I was reading your post, I was wondering how in the world you could be so knowledgeable about this. Now it’s clear. Your father obviously had a great career, and you picked up some quite interesting knowledge from him.
Indeed so. His flying career started as a military transport pilot in the 1950s, before leaving the RAF towards the end of the decade and moving in to commercial aviation, joining BOAC (British Overseas Airways Corporation) which later merged in 1974 with BEA (British European Airways) to form what is now British Airways, firstly flying turboprop airliners and then moving on to the new generation of jet aircraft, initially on the DeHavilland Comet IV, and then transitioning to the Boeing 707 in the early 1960s. He continued flying the 707, eventually rising to the position of being a training captain on the type, and then in the early 70s he began flying the smaller 737-100 and later the newer (at the time) 737-200, reaching the rank of captain on these before eventually moving up to the 747 as First Officer and although he never got to fly as a captain on this type, he continued as a pilot instructor, primarily on the 737 but occasionally also on the 747, though as I pointed out earlier, most of this was on simulators, with just the occasional real flight before he took early retirement in the early 2000s, as a result of budget cuts following the reduction in passenger travel in the immediate aftermath of 9/11, but by then he had been flying for around 50 years which is an impressive achievement I think :)

I actually had a handful of flying lessons in the mid 1980s, so I know my way around a cockpit pretty well, especially on light aircraft - but at the time my mum and dad were going through their divorce and things were really strained at home. Also my modelling career was just starting to take off at that time, so a combination of all these factors led to me not continuing my training. Life is too short for regrets, but part of me does wonder how different my life might have been had I carried on with my instruction. Having said that, I have no issues with the way things turned out for me :)

As my dad was already flying more than a decade before I was born, I spent a lot of my early years around aircraft of various types and it's true to say that aviation is very much in my blood and I've always maintained a keen interest in the subject and the industry around it to this day.
 
firstly flying turboprop airliners and then moving on to the new generation of jet aircraft, initially on the DeHavilland Comet ... occasionally also on the 747, though as I pointed out earlier, most of this was on simulators,
from the turboprops and first jetliners to the age of simulator training, that is a lot of aviation history firsthand!
two much more efficient engines proving to be not only more efficient in terms of fuel economy, but also simplifying maintenance
an important point ... while the basic shape of what a largish/ longish-range passenger plane looks like hasn't really changed that much in the last 50 or 60 years engine technology has improved a lot.

When picking engines for any model, aircraft designers will have to ask, what's the most powerful engine available that's also reliable, affordable, and not a maintenance nightmare, to fulfill the thrust requirements of the plane.

50 or 60 years ago people weren't really willing to trust a plane with only two engines to regularly go across the oceans (reliability concern) and the technology just didn't scale as well - building an engine of the required power would have led to an unproportionally costly & unreliable product.

Improved manufacturing and design approaches make it pretty easy to fulfill that requirement today. The probability of two engines of modern design failing spontaneously in flight is extremely low (and if they fail because of say hitting a huge swarm of birds ... that scenario could take out three or four engines as well...)

Since military applications often don't have such a requirement on being cost or maintenance effective that is how things got built with 8 or 10 engines on them ... that's when the requirements go beyond what is really practical with the technology of the day.
 
from the turboprops and first jetliners to the age of simulator training, that is a lot of aviation history firsthand!
Yeah he was part of that very fortunate generation of pilots who were in the industry at the time of such huge technological changes. I know that he certainly considers himself very lucky to have experienced all of this as it happened
 
50 or 60 years ago people weren't really willing to trust a plane with only two engines to regularly go across the oceans (reliability concern) and the technology just didn't scale as well - building an engine of the required power would have led to an unproportionally costly & unreliable product.
There were rules, limiting the allowed radius of two engine airliners over open ocean, precisely because of the risk of engine failure. That's why the intercontinental flights were carried out by aircraft with at least 3 engines (DC10, L1011 Tristar). Civil aviation had just emerged from the era of the piston engines, when engine failures were common. Lockheed's Constellation was nicknamed 'the world's best three engined aircraft' - it had actually four!

Gradually, jet engines became more reliable, and restrictions for two engines became less severe. Around 1990, the twin engine Boeing 767 could fly transatlantic.
 
There were rules, limiting the allowed radius of two engine airliners over open ocean, precisely because of the risk of engine failure. That's why the intercontinental flights were carried out by aircraft with at least 3 engines (DC10, L1011 Tristar). Civil aviation had just emerged from the era of the piston engines, when engine failures were common. Lockheed's Constellation was nicknamed 'the world's best three engined aircraft' - it had actually four!

Gradually, jet engines became more reliable, and restrictions for two engines became less severe. Around 1990, the twin engine Boeing 767 could fly transatlantic.
And let's not forget that all modern two-engine airliners can fly and land safely on just one engine (though controlling it is harder due to thrust asymmetry, though modern fly-by-wire control systems as pioneered on the Airbus A320 and others makes this a lot easier)

Of course in the older generation of narrow-body jets such as the BAC-1-11 and the DC9 / MD80 etc, the thrust asymmetry is less of an issue as the engines are much closer to the centrline axis - it's once you get the engines out on the wings that it becomes more tricky as in single-engine flight, the thrust axis and centreline axis are not coincident and thus the plane will tend to yaw badly, requiring significant rudder input to keep it going in a straight line...
 
Lockheed's Constellation was nicknamed 'the world's best three engined aircraft' - it had actually four!
haha, there's also this
As engine fires occurred with the B-36's radial engines, some crews humorously changed the aircraft's slogan from "six turning, four burning" into "two turning, two burning, two smoking, two choking and two more unaccounted for."

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haha, there's also this
As engine fires occurred with the B-36's radial engines, some crews humorously changed the aircraft's slogan from "six turning, four burning" into "two turning, two burning, two smoking, two choking and two more unaccounted for."

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Wasn't the B36 the testbed for the plan to build a nuclear powered bomber back in the 50s? As far as I know, they installed a reactor in the plane but only to test the shielding, and I don't think it was ever used to actually power the aircraft. (iirc the B36 was fitted with piston engines and I think that would be a hell of a lot harder to convert to nuclear power than, for example, a turboprop)

Today this seems like a really bad idea (what could possibly go wrong? etc) but I guess that's another one of those cold war projects to throw everything at the wall and see what sticks...
 
Wasn't the B36 the testbed for the plan to build a nuclear powered bomber back in the 50s? As far as I know, they installed a reactor in the plane but only to test the shielding, and I don't think it was ever used to actually power the aircraft. (iirc the B36 was fitted with piston engines and I think that would be a hell of a lot harder to convert to nuclear power than, for example, a turboprop)

Today this seems like a really bad idea (what could possibly go wrong? etc) but I guess that's another one of those cold war projects to throw everything at the wall and see what sticks...
I have read they tried nuclear powering. It didn't seem to work too well...
 
Wasn't the B36 the testbed for the plan to build a nuclear powered bomber back in the 50s? As far as I know, they installed a reactor in the plane but only to test the shielding, and I don't think it was ever used to actually power the aircraft. (iirc the B36 was fitted with piston engines and I think that would be a hell of a lot harder to convert to nuclear power than, for example, a turboprop)

Today this seems like a really bad idea (what could possibly go wrong? etc) but I guess that's another one of those cold war projects to throw everything at the wall and see what sticks...
yeah there were a lot of crazy ideas around as technology changed so rapidly, and the manichaean cold war outlook plus the doomsday expectation made everything appear thinkable. And since the b-36 was basically obsolete the moment it entered service it soon became available for such experiments ...

... one of the ideas for propulsion was a 'direct air cycle' which means nothing else than that after the initial compressor stage they would in place of a combustion chamber, superheat the air by running it right through a reactor core ... in other words the plane would be nothing else than a continuous unshielded nuclear disaster screaming across the sky leaving behind a trail of isotopically enriched air ... luckily other technologies advanced rapidly enough that before development ever became serious, the concept of the nuclear powered bomber lost all military utility it might have had in theory, and so everything was cancelled - the same happened to the soviet counterpart.
 
haha, there's also this
As engine fires occurred with the B-36's radial engines, some crews humorously changed the aircraft's slogan from "six turning, four burning" into "two turning, two burning, two smoking, two choking and two more unaccounted for."

View attachment 1257800
If I recall correctly, there was also a small problem of the original landing gear and huge wheels leaving tracks in the tarmac and runways, and they had to redesign it with multiple wheels to spread the enormous weight to fix the problem.
 
Milestone in a milestone : we already reached 400 pages of milestones! :thumbsup:

And before we overlook it too : yesterday, 8th of January 2023 marked the 200th annivesary of the birth of Alfred Russel Wallace (1823-1913). Wallace was a biologist and geographer, who made naturalist expeditions to Brazil and the Indonesian Archipelo. In the late 1850's, interested in the relationships between the various species he found, he reported his findings to someone he knew who could also be interested in it : a certain Charles Darwin. Wallace had worked out a theory, demonstrating that species evolved from a parent species, by adaptation, to new variations which could replace the parent variation. This was exactly the theory that Darwin had written down about 20 years earlier, but never had published it, out of fear for hostile reactions, since it totally refuted the Biblical creation. The letter from Wallace was the instigation for Darwin to publish his 'On the origin of Species' (1859), after having published a common paper with Wallace about the topic.
 
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