The Rosicrucians, possibly? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RosicrucianismMakes you think, Phlebas.
I wonder if there was an early version of Cruxforums where your Grandad and Grandad swapped stories and photos courtesy of the good old Royal Mail?
I just found the perfect way to raise a cross!
Of course Marcella.One committed the terrible crime but the other two are completely innocent. Yet, all three had to die! I mean, you had to make sure the guilty one was executed! It's just the logical thing to do.
Hey, it's just the kind of justice expected here, isn't it?
Indeed, it is one possible interpretation, Marcella. See post #3650 in this thread.Triplets? Identical triplets! Wow! Just imagine that!
View attachment 439467 One committed the terrible crime but the other two are completely innocent. Yet, all three had to die! I mean, you had to make sure the guilty one was executed! It's just the logical thing to do.
Hey, it's just the kind of justice expected here, isn't it?
Here are some more pictures from the same painting:
and a bonus old painting, just to prove my point above
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Martyr de Sainte Barbe par Jean Bellegambe (c1470 - 1534), Musèe de l la Chartreuse de Douai.
Martyrdom of St Barbara, Charterhouse Museum, Douay.
I love Barbe's look of chaste dismay, and the insanely vicious expression on her tormentor's face -
note he's left-handed, the sinister side!
I have seen somewhere on this forum topic about the huge painting by Jan Stuka dedicated to mass crucifixion on the arena in Roman times. This painting was lost in Russia during its exibition - it was damaged because of the roof collapse in the building where it was exibited. Further traces of it are lost in Russian revolutionary turmoil. I tried to collect all images in the web about this painting. If somebody has more of it - post here or send me.
Here are some more pictures from the same painting:
Crux Forum's Formulation:Of course Marcella.
William Blackstone's Formulation that it is better that ten guilty persons escape than that one innocent suffer holds no place at all in the Court of Crux Forums .
My point, exactly!!!Crux Forum's Formulation:
It is better to punish 10 thousand innocent women than let one guilty one escape.
And no one is really innocent, after all.
Makes you think, Phlebas.
I wonder if there was an early version of Cruxforums where your Grandad and Grandad swapped stories and photos courtesy of the good old Royal Mail?
Have you seen the movie "Gentlemen's Relish", starring Billy Connolly? Photographer decides he can't make a living taking portraits in London in the early 1900s, and starts a subscription service for 'artistic' images of the female form. Well worth the time. Can't remember if there was any crux form (likely not ).Absolutely. None have come down to me though, sadly
Hang on, what are these in this old box with "From Wragg" on the lid?
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The other possibility are artist's studies for crux paintings, but these tend to be male
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You'd probably remember if there was....Have you seen the movie "Gentlemen's Relish", starring Billy Connolly? Photographer decides he can't make a living taking portraits in London in the early 1900s, and starts a subscription service for 'artistic' images of the female form. Well worth the time. Can't remember if there was any crux form (likely not ).
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I liked it. Very imaginative and something there for everyone. Much more fun than being one of the 10 daughters of the other guy.10 slaves for 10 brothers
Once upon a time there was a farmer who lived with his 10 beautiful daughters in a small farmhouse. The King wanted the 10 beautiful daughters to be married to his 10 sons, but the farmer refused, so the king had him killed and fed to the fishes in his moat, and he took the 10 girls as slaves.
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The eldest daughter, not yet 25, was given to his favorite general, who built a stone cottage to keep her in. While he was gone, she walked around the premises, shivering in the open air and waiting for her master to return, so he could take her inside.
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The second daughter was given to the King's mistress, who also happened to be her rival. She was put in stocks in the mistresses private garden, and endured all the torment and humiliation the hated woman could think up.
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The third daughter was given to the kings first legion, who kept her staked and spread eagle in the center of their camp. She wouldn't last long in their company. They can't have nice things.
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The Fourth Daughter was given to the bishop. He believed her to be a witch, and wanted to use her to exercise his demons. When he was done with her, she would meet a heretics fate.
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The fifth daughter was given to the guards at the gate, to which they have chained her. They tell the young women that pass through, "If you don't want to end up like that one, come keep us company for a spell."
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The sixth daughter was given to the King's kennel master, and she quickly became his favorite bitch. And after her training, the love was mutual. In fact, she got excited whenever he said they were going on a W-A-L-K.
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The seventh daughter was given to the local innkeeper, who had always had a crush on the girl. He reached an understanding with the girl, that if she didn't run away, he wouldn't put her in chains. The business thrived, as people came from miles around to be served beer by a girl in her birthday suit. The beer was delicious too.
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The eighth daughter was given to a hunter that had saved his life. He loved to leave his door open for her to run away, so that he could track and capture her. She once led him on a two day chase. When he finally caught her, that was the best time he ever had.
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The ninth daughter, along with the farmers old house and land, was given to her fathers hated enemy, who owned neighboring fields and became one of the richest farmers in the land. He kept her tied to a tree outside at all times, and used her less often then one might think. She grew very lonely.
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The tenth and youngest daughter the King kept for himself. And when the King threw a party to celebrate the marriage of his 10 sons to the 10 daughters of someone who actually thought about what was best for their offspring, the girl was on full display and whipped for the amusement of the party goers. And she enjoyed every second of it.
I bet they all entertained warm and loving thoughts about Dad....not!10 slaves for 10 brothers
Once upon a time there was a farmer who lived with his 10 beautiful daughters in a small farmhouse. The King wanted the 10 beautiful daughters to be married to his 10 sons, but the farmer refused, so the king had him killed and fed to the fishes in his moat, and he took the 10 girls as slaves.
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The eldest daughter, not yet 25, was given to his favorite general, who built a stone cottage to keep her in. While he was gone, she walked around the premises, shivering in the open air and waiting for her master to return, so he could take her inside.
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The second daughter was given to the King's mistress, who also happened to be her rival. She was put in stocks in the mistresses private garden, and endured all the torment and humiliation the hated woman could think up.
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The third daughter was given to the kings first legion, who kept her staked and spread eagle in the center of their camp. She wouldn't last long in their company. They can't have nice things.
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The Fourth Daughter was given to the bishop. He believed her to be a witch, and wanted to use her to exercise his demons. When he was done with her, she would meet a heretics fate.
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The fifth daughter was given to the guards at the gate, to which they have chained her. They tell the young women that pass through, "If you don't want to end up like that one, come keep us company for a spell."
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The sixth daughter was given to the King's kennel master, and she quickly became his favorite bitch. And after her training, the love was mutual. In fact, she got excited whenever he said they were going on a W-A-L-K.
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The seventh daughter was given to the local innkeeper, who had always had a crush on the girl. He reached an understanding with the girl, that if she didn't run away, he wouldn't put her in chains. The business thrived, as people came from miles around to be served beer by a girl in her birthday suit. The beer was delicious too.
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The eighth daughter was given to a hunter that had saved his life. He loved to leave his door open for her to run away, so that he could track and capture her. She once led him on a two day chase. When he finally caught her, that was the best time he ever had.
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The ninth daughter, along with the farmers old house and land, was given to her fathers hated enemy, who owned neighboring fields and became one of the richest farmers in the land. He kept her tied to a tree outside at all times, and used her less often then one might think. She grew very lonely.
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The tenth and youngest daughter the King kept for himself. And when the King threw a party to celebrate the marriage of his 10 sons to the 10 daughters of someone who actually thought about what was best for their offspring, the girl was on full display and whipped for the amusement of the party goers. And she enjoyed every second of it.