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In The Aftermath Of The Crucifiction

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cire

Magistrate
Not that easy, as I cannot separate my body from the cross in the first place!


But... do we want them to leave, deep inside of us?

They taunt us, but they keep us company to!

Without onlookers, only pain and cruel solitude will be left over for us!
Of course you are right Loxuru. Here I can only speak for myself, not for the other crucified. For me it's arousing being exposed on the cross to the crowd. Even though I'm older now, I still enjoy my body. It's very satisfying for me when the spectators and the other crucified like what they see. Though the feelings and the pain create a deadly mixture.:rolleyes:

That is just one personal aspect. I also do get off on the small details that can be seen or occur during a crucifixion. Amongst other, I'm very excited about the backdrop that really was created for everybody at the scene.

The magic of the perspective can/must be amazingly shocking. MS did a good job (thanks to Dismasdolben for the stills), pretty close to a point.
Phlebas' manip is also one of the important illustrations of a crucifixion for me. A lot of attention has been paid from both artists during the production.

I love to see skulls and bones from previous executions on the ground. Good to have the nails for the delinquent ready aside of the cross, or the clothes still scattered in front of the crucified. Take a closer look at the manip from Phlebas. The Legionaire on the ladder is holding the woman's Titulus in his hands, I think he's ready to attach it. Is he waiting until his comrade is finished with the nailing of the victims feet? Isn't that great. What does she feel? Just imagine.
 

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cire

Magistrate
Of course you are right Loxuru. Here I can only speak for myself, not for the other crucified. For me it's arousing being exposed on the cross to the crowd. Even though I'm older now, I still enjoy my body. It's very satisfying for me when the spectators and the other crucified like what they see. Though the feelings and the pain create a deadly mixture.:rolleyes:
Every crucified suffers so very individual.

Besides the sastisfaction when the crowd is watching me, I'm also scared, horryfied. How much more must I take being executed?
When they drove the nails through my bones, I screamed and urinated because of the pain.
I really got the crowd laughing.

Daniela told me that she wants to be left alone with her agony. She doesn't enjoy communicating with the other crucified, and she is ashamed to hang exposed. Used to pain, she has no problem with solitude.

The cross seems to make the suffering of the executed equal, at least for the spectators and the Legionaires......:D:D:D
 
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Loxuru

Graf von Kreuzigung
Of course you are right Loxuru. Here I can only speak for myself, not for the other crucified. For me it's arousing being exposed on the cross to the crowd. Even though I'm older now, I still enjoy my body. It's very satisfying for me when the spectators and the other crucified like what they see. Though the feelings and the pain create a deadly mixture.:rolleyes:
That's an interesting aspect : the age of the crucified. As I am getting older too. An exposed body of some age, like mine, with all its imperfections. Will it create more mocking among the crowd, yet or on the other hand, some appreciation for the elder's struggle among the onlookers? I guess, both, and the contrast between both sorts of reactions may be more extreme.

The Legionaire on the ladder is holding the woman's Titulus in his hands, I think he's ready to attach it. Is he waiting
The man on the ladder has just finished attaching the patibulum to the stipes. After his comrade has finished nailing her feet, he will not only put the tituus in place, but also release the ropes that held up the patibulum. Perhaps after a test that the patibulum will hold. Interesting backdrop indeed.
 

cire

Magistrate
That's an interesting aspect : the age of the crucified. As I am getting older too. An exposed body of some age, like mine, with all its imperfections. Will it create more mocking among the crowd, yet or on the other hand, some appreciation for the elder's struggle among the onlookers? I guess, both, and the contrast between both sorts of reactions may be more extreme.


The man on the ladder has just finished attaching the patibulum to the stipes. After his comrade has finished nailing her feet, he will not only put the tituus in place, but also release the ropes that held up the patibulum. Perhaps after a test that the patibulum will hold. Interesting backdrop indeed.
Absolutely Loxuru. That is some great manip. The Titulus is very important for me. I like to have information about the executed. No matter if I'm amongst the crucified, if I'm a spectator, or work as a Legionaire at the execution site.

To read why the victims got executed, is giving everybody a direction of how to behave.......perfect.
 

dfg42

Governor
That's an interesting aspect : the age of the crucified. As I am getting older too. An exposed body of some age, like mine, with all its imperfections. Will it create more
I think we live in a time and in a society, which focuses to much in youth. When I remember correctly the duty time of legionaries was around 20 years, with extremely good chance to survive (do not go into the military details) and even some served 2 terms..... So the executers might be quite old, so are the condemned. I remember how I was first shocked when I rewatched Star Wars (Episode IV) and discovered rebel soldiers with white hairs, so even me. And I read the memories of General Ludendorff (the main person in the staff of Germany during WW1), where he stated that the reserve troups (age 42-50) had better performances as the normal troups (19-32)). It is not that surprising at the end. So we are looking forward to the crucifixion of old males and females. In the case of females (I know we do not crucify celebrities here for obvious reasons) look at the body of the 72 year old Grace Jones (she often show it) and think how another similar 72 year old females (not all of course) would look on cross!
 
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dfg42

Governor
I think we live in a time and in a society, which focuses to much in youth. When I remember correctly the duty time of legionaries was around 20 years, with extremely good chance to survive (do not go into the military details) and even some served 2 terms..... So the executers might be quite old, so are the condemned. I remember how I was first shocked when I rewatched Star Wars (Episode IV) and discovered rebel soldiers with white hairs, so even me. And I read the memories of General Ludendorff (the main person in the staff of Germany during WW1), where he stated that the reserve troups (age 42-50) had better performances as the normal troups (19-32)). It is not that surprising at the end. So we are looking forward to the crucifixion of old males and females. In the case of females (I know we do not crucify celebrities here for obvious reasons) look at the body of the 72 year old Grace Jones (she often show it) and think how another similar 72 year old females (not all of course) would look on cross!
Okay they are called EVOCATI, that are soldiers which were after there normal duty, which seems to be between 16-25 years again in the legion as volunteers. They get a lot of privileges and are freed from intensive work duties, so probably the crucifixion. They however will have command functions, so we imagine 2 young soldiers, an old one, the young ones build the cross and hold the condemned man or woman, while the older undress him or her and the flogs the condemned. On Crucifixion place the young ones hold th arms while the older nails and/or rapes the person. All lift the cross with the crucified to the vertical. I think I know see the real situation. We can create the scenarios with modifications with your preferences.....
 

cire

Magistrate
CIRE: MORE THAN I THOUGHT THAT I CAN TAKE

......meanwhile the flogged skin on my back is itching so bad, that I scratch it to the Stipes as much as possible. I'm screaming as strong as I can, but still have the urge to may find relief while I rub every possible square inch of my naked skin on the raw wood of my cross.

No it's not screaming any longer, it's more a constant squealing of me and the other executed. When I peep over to Andrea, I can see that blood is running down her Stipes. I'm pretty sure that my Stipes doesn't look much better. I wouldn't be surprised, if I was partially down to my ribs.

I speak to her:
"We are killing ourselves, and there is nothing we can do about it. I never thought that I can survive that much pain."

She is pulling herself to the Stipes, turning her head towards me, answering:
"Yes, my wrists are hurting like crazy, as soon as I pull myself with the back to the wood. I don't care. There is the urge to scratch my back and my ass with all the power that I still have."

While saying that, she's getting up to inhale. Slowly her ribcage is enlarging, and her tits smoothly dangle. It's strange that her nipples stand out hardened in this situation.
She starts to bang her head........


A GOOD FLOGGING WILL HURL THE EXECUTED EVEN FURTHER INTO THE ABYSS.

What a nice manip from Jucundus concerning the flogging. Thanks for giving us an Idea.
 

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Loxuru

Graf von Kreuzigung
While saying that, she's getting up to inhale. Slowly her ribcage is enlarging, and her tits smoothly dangle. It's strange that her nipples stand out hardened in this situation.
It's strange that you still notice such a detail, and it still seems to excite you in some way!

Still a long way to go for both of you!

It keeps the spectacle fascinating for us, onlookers!
 
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