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Paul1969

Executioner
Well fortunately I have a lot of experience with public speaking so some of the methods would be the same. For example eye contact, you want him to know this is for him, so you look him directly in the eye.

A smile, wink, blow someone a kiss. All good initiators without commitment, see if he responds. Does he run his eyes over your body or is he busy talking to to his buddy next to him? Is his facial expression engaged or does he look bored? If you get positive indicators then you move onto more serious stuff. If not don't waste anymore time on him.

If you find he has an interest then you direct more serious things towards him. A slow sensual pursing of the lips like he was something delicious you wanted to eat. Make sure when walking around the stage to put one foot in front of the other (watch super models) as it makes your hips swing and your breasts bounce more. When turning around keep face forward as long as you can before swinging your face to the approaching side, nobody cares about the back of your head.

Throw your hair over your head and then flip it back.

Run your palms over your curves as far down your body as you can without bending over and when bringing your hands back up your body make sure they pass over your sex (DON'T play with yourself, he is buying you to entertain him not yourself) and up your belly before you cup your breasts. Run your finger tips over your areolas and nipples.

And some point make sure you do bend over but don't let your shoulders get level with your hips. I have never met a guy who didn't like the sight of dangling breasts.

Now if I was bigger chested (I'm a "B") I might lightly lick my nipples when displaying them because I could keep eye contact with the buyer while doing that. Believe me he is not thinking what my tongue might do for my nipples (no matter how much he likes that), he is thinking what my tongue might do for his anatomy.

The types of things you see in modern BDSM (checking out sex and ass) probably didn't happen in an auction setting. When you buy a horse (or any live stock) you do the physical exam in the stall before the animal comes out for bidding. Once the bidding starts the auctioneer has no time for you to poke at the subject, he wants to get as many thru the sale as possible before the buyers lose interest (and they do).

Don't concentrate on just one man, find several in the audience who you think are good candidates. These are highly successful powerful men with egos. A lot of the conversation around the lectus was 'I did this or I own that'. Very much like modern rich guys. They love nothing better than one upping their social peers. If you can get several of them interested a bidding war starts which is only in your favor because he is less likely to discard you (he doesn't want to admit in front of his buddies buying you was a mistake) quickly. Plus a bidding war makes the seller very happy.

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willowfall
What if it was a sapphic slave auction? Use the same showing off/revealing strategy?
 

Aslin nee 8ball

Executioner
I think that we all try to visualize how slavery and slave inspections did happen. I can’t even imagine the fear and trepidation felt by those taken from a life of freedom then captured, inspected, and sold into a life with no freedom. Whether it was because of a country losing a war, kidnapping , or a penal thing indentured servitude for debt or a crime, the life change that took place must have been almost unbearable. Short of survival instinct, I am sure that suicide was a very viable option for many. Slavery was brutal and still is a brutal part of society today. Sorry to put a bummer on the fantasy of slavery but I feel nothing but pity for children and young women that have somehow found their way into the world-wide human trafficking system.
 

willowfall

Senator
What if it was a sapphic slave auction? Use the same showing off/revealing strategy?

Well again I think you are mixing modern concepts with ancient. Ancients had a different view of sex. Despite what some modern authors try to pimp, while the ancients accepted that homosexual acts and love occurred, you see a ton of writings from the time period dismissing "immorality" (and this is pre-Christianity) as destructive to society. I'd find it hard to believe that ANY PUBLIC (the rich can ALWAYS get what they want behind closed doors) auctions would have been women buying women.

And remember (like in modern fundamentalist's societies) in ancient societies men could say one thing and do almost anything they like. Women got stoned for the exact same actions.

I am sure women had female slaves bought for their pleasure but I suspect it was at the same auctions the men were shopping a thru a surrogate (like the household Stewart).

Having said that, moving ahead with the assumption that it did occur, female to female seduction is not the same as female to male. (It is very easy to tell the difference between "lesbian" porn shot for the male market and for the female market.) YES we love the physical part of the sex but the desire to have another woman is more based on who she is, inside, than who she is on the outside. So I'd still flirt but I'd drop a lot of the physical moves (hip motion, hanging breasts, etc) and I would probably play my hands more lightly across my skin (the touch of a lover you can barely feel is quite sensual). I'd stay completely away from fondling myself as I find the women I have sex with are more interested in the 'tease' then the 'touch'.

And I suspect there would be a part of the auction where you would be asked to recite some love poetry or a romantic story. Foreplay, verbal as well as physical. is incredibly important to the women I have had relationships with.

Some of the other girls on the forum might approach this differently as just like you, we are not all the same.

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willowfall
 

willowfall

Senator
I think that we all try to visualize how slavery and slave inspections did happen. I can’t even imagine the fear and trepidation felt by those taken from a life of freedom then captured, inspected, and sold into a life with no freedom. Whether it was because of a country losing a war, kidnapping , or a penal thing indentured servitude for debt or a crime, the life change that took place must have been almost unbearable. Short of survival instinct, I am sure that suicide was a very viable option for many. Slavery was brutal and still is a brutal part of society today. Sorry to put a bummer on the fantasy of slavery but I feel nothing but pity for children and young women that have somehow found their way into the world-wide human trafficking system.

Maybe Aslin but again ancient people's views of the world were radically different than ours is.

To take it out of the role of slavery in ancient Rome a "girl" was legally a woman at 12 years and 1 day old. Thus she could and would marry and have sex right then and there. Imagine the uproar that would cause today if anyone proposed that today. The concept of "child labor" didn't exist. Everyone went to work as soon as they could or the family might starve. That soldiers were ENTITLED to sack a city and do what they wanted to the population is unthinkable for the past 300 years or so in western society (but I would point out NOT in other coexisting societies in other parts of the world today).

Also Slavery was not an aberration in their world, it was all around them. They all knew slaves even if they didn't own any themselves. The concept of the conquered belonging to the conqueror (or a wife belonging to a husband) was part of the natural order. Class stratification was every powerful in those societies and even for a poor free person a slave was one rung down on the social ladder. I don't think, humans being humans, that there was much movement for Emancipation, which only really started to gain traction in the 1700s.

I certainly agree with you that the life change was drastic and no one wanted to become a slave but I'm not sure that it was a traumatic as you'd think. They lived in a world where it was a struggle to get past 12. Child mortality and death in childbirth were out of sight by our standards yet to them it was the normal course of events. They had no objection to having slaves when their armies conquered. That they were on the losing end was merely bad luck and for most, slavery was better than death.

Also there were levels of slavery. Hard industrial work (farming, mining and believe it or not working in a mill) was virtually a slow death sentence. Getting sold into domestic service might have been a step up for a lot of them (something to be said for guaranteed food and shelter). A girl who found herself the possession of a Legionary might have just found her common law husband even if she was legally a slave.

Did they want it to happen, I'd say not, did they accept that it was part of life, I'd bet they did.

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willowfall
 

Aslin nee 8ball

Executioner
I do agree that for some people back in history their chance for survival probably increased when they became a slave. A roof over their heads and food in their belly was undoubtably better than starving. I can’t believe however that it was ever anything but an ordeal for them. They may have learned to survive within the system, but I’m not sure too many of them felt better off for it. What I can’t believe is that even with the evolution of society that human trafficking still exists and big money is still the force that drives it. We all have our fantasies, dominant and submissive, those fantasies excite us, they drive sites like this one. But they are fantasies, not the reality that the trafficked have to deal with. I just have to say that modern day slavery really saddens me.
 

wulf

Tribune
I do agree that for some people back in history their chance for survival probably increased when they became a slave. A roof over their heads and food in their belly was undoubtably better than starving. I can’t believe however that it was ever anything but an ordeal for them. They may have learned to survive within the system, but I’m not sure too many of them felt better off for it. What I can’t believe is that even with the evolution of society that human trafficking still exists and big money is still the force that drives it. We all have our fantasies, dominant and submissive, those fantasies excite us, they drive sites like this one. But they are fantasies, not the reality that the trafficked have to deal with. I just have to say that modern day slavery really saddens me.
Well said.
I'm sure most everyone here understands the difference between fantasy and reality, perhaps better than anyone. It is what separates us from the people that are, or should be, in prison.
 

Paul1969

Executioner
Well again I think you are mixing modern concepts with ancient. Ancients had a different view of sex. Despite what some modern authors try to pimp, while the ancients accepted that homosexual acts and love occurred, you see a ton of writings from the time period dismissing "immorality" (and this is pre-Christianity) as destructive to society. I'd find it hard to believe that ANY PUBLIC (the rich can ALWAYS get what they want behind closed doors) auctions would have been women buying women.

And remember (like in modern fundamentalist's societies) in ancient societies men could say one thing and do almost anything they like. Women got stoned for the exact same actions.

I am sure women had female slaves bought for their pleasure but I suspect it was at the same auctions the men were shopping a thru a surrogate (like the household Stewart).

Having said that, moving ahead with the assumption that it did occur, female to female seduction is not the same as female to male. (It is very easy to tell the difference between "lesbian" porn shot for the male market and for the female market.) YES we love the physical part of the sex but the desire to have another woman is more based on who she is, inside, than who she is on the outside. So I'd still flirt but I'd drop a lot of the physical moves (hip motion, hanging breasts, etc) and I would probably play my hands more lightly across my skin (the touch of a lover you can barely feel is quite sensual). I'd stay completely away from fondling myself as I find the women I have sex with are more interested in the 'tease' then the 'touch'.

And I suspect there would be a part of the auction where you would be asked to recite some love poetry or a romantic story. Foreplay, verbal as well as physical. is incredibly important to the women I have had relationships with.

Some of the other girls on the forum might approach this differently as just like you, we are not all the same.

kisses

willowfall
Willow! I am questioning your assertions! I was in a small restaurant in Chicago having breakfast. A group of women came in and sat down. They were lesbians and started to describe women they had relations with. Very descriptive of them physically and what they had done with the women. Poetry did not come up in their conversation. I was blushing. So, you claim I could be selling athletic, fit slavegirls, nude and in chains and the lady buyers would be more concerned with internal attributes? I used to talk about sexy women with a lesbian friend who played arena football, she was ravenous sexually.
 

willowfall

Senator
Willow! I am questioning your assertions! I was in a small restaurant in Chicago having breakfast. A group of women came in and sat down. They were lesbians and started to describe women they had relations with. Very descriptive of them physically and what they had done with the women. Poetry did not come up in their conversation. I was blushing. So, you claim I could be selling athletic, fit slavegirls, nude and in chains and the lady buyers would be more concerned with internal attributes? I used to talk about sexy women with a lesbian friend who played arena football, she was ravenous sexually.

There is a serious difference between wanting to do someone because you find them physically attractive (which is how I found out I was bi, a lesbian found me physically attractive but that is another story) and wanting to have someone in a relationship. Just like a guy wants to screw some girl and have her go away women can have the same desire.

Slave ownership is a RELATIONSHIP (admittedly with unequal powers). You don't buy a slave to fuck her and forget her (that's what brothels were for) you buy a slave to have for a fair amount of time. That requires that there is something more than just physical lust or in about 2 weeks you are going to be bored.

When you acquire a slave you also acquire responsibility for clothing, feeding, housing, medical care, etc etc etc. You really want more than say an hour a day of their physical time for all that.

Besides there is nothing more insipid than boring pillow talk when you recharge.

And when was the last time you talked football in the middle of the conversation with your buddies about the girl you did last night?

One thing I have found thru the years is homosexual (men and women) relationships tend to be a lot more transitory than heterosexual relationships. Maybe because I'm a professional and run in a crowd of people where we are all economically independent there is less need to stay together but percentage wise homosexual relationships tend to last a shorter amount of time. In our group my GF and I being together over 10 years now is wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy out of the norm.

So am I surprised that the lesbians sat around the table and talked about sex? No, the question you should have asked them was "And how long have you been with any of these women?" Gay bars can be meat markets too.

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willowfall
 

Paul1969

Executioner
There is a serious difference between wanting to do someone because you find them physically attractive (which is how I found out I was bi, a lesbian found me physically attractive but that is another story) and wanting to have someone in a relationship. Just like a guy wants to screw some girl and have her go away women can have the same desire.

Slave ownership is a RELATIONSHIP (admittedly with unequal powers). You don't buy a slave to fuck her and forget her (that's what brothels were for) you buy a slave to have for a fair amount of time. That requires that there is something more than just physical lust or in about 2 weeks you are going to be bored.

When you acquire a slave you also acquire responsibility for clothing, feeding, housing, medical care, etc etc etc. You really want more than say an hour a day of their physical time for all that.

Besides there is nothing more insipid than boring pillow talk when you recharge.

And when was the last time you talked football in the middle of the conversation with your buddies about the girl you did last night?

One thing I have found thru the years is homosexual (men and women) relationships tend to be a lot more transitory than heterosexual relationships. Maybe because I'm a professional and run in a crowd of people where we are all economically independent there is less need to stay together but percentage wise homosexual relationships tend to last a shorter amount of time. In our group my GF and I being together over 10 years now is wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy out of the norm.

So am I surprised that the lesbians sat around the table and talked about sex? No, the question you should have asked them was "And how long have you been with any of these women?" Gay bars can be meat markets too.

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willowfall
My point being, the lesbian found you physically attractive. Just like a heterosexual relationship, most start by physical attraction. You might be in a relationship already, married etc. and still buy a slave for sexual purpose. In our fantasy world, lol. The slaves place is to serve the master/mistress needs. My friend would find your B size breasts(Beautiful) and would probably like to see you display them for her. Later, you might have a different relationship that was more than just physical. True
 

willowfall

Senator
I do agree that for some people back in history their chance for survival probably increased when they became a slave. A roof over their heads and food in their belly was undoubtably better than starving. I can’t believe however that it was ever anything but an ordeal for them. They may have learned to survive within the system, but I’m not sure too many of them felt better off for it. What I can’t believe is that even with the evolution of society that human trafficking still exists and big money is still the force that drives it. We all have our fantasies, dominant and submissive, those fantasies excite us, they drive sites like this one. But they are fantasies, not the reality that the trafficked have to deal with. I just have to say that modern day slavery really saddens me.

I think part of our modern problem with viewing those in the past is we have become overly sensitive to what we perceive as injustice thanks to our modern incredibly wealthy culture. It wasn't that long ago that surviving was a real issue. In many parts of the world it still is and just trying to survive can harden you. (I think every American should spend 6 months living in a 3rd world country as they do, not like royalty at a resort. It gives you a whole new perspective on reality.)

As an example just 160 years ago (a blink of an eye in human history) during the American Civil War both Davis and Lincoln lost children while serving as President of their respective side. It was a terrible tragedy for both families but for their societies at large it was like 'we're sorry, that's terrible, it happens life goes on.' If that had happened to say one of the Obama girls it would have been a 24 hour a day news media frenzy for at least a month with national days of morning thrown in.

I am not saying anybody got up in the morning and said "Gee, I'd like to become a slave today." And certainly free people did not want to move down the ladder to the lowest rung of society. But slavery was all around them, it was a normal part of their culture and economic system. If they had run a cross a society without slaves they would have been "WTF"? In the Roman Empire (as in many others) slavery became both a political and economic necessity.

And I am afraid that as far as the "evolution" of human society is concerned I have long passed naivety and am approaching apathy. We are animals with technology. Our biological hardwiring is no different than a lion's. It is our brain that allows us to override and control the animal in us and far too few of us actually engage our brains on a daily basis. As a species we too often 'think' with our emotions instead of our intellect.

And all through out history if you want to understand why something happened follow where the wealth and power flowed too and you will have your answer as to why it happened.

And hell yes human trafficking is an abomination. Unfortunately I think that if I bet you today that it would still be around 200 years from now (and either of us could be around to confirm it) it would be easy money for me.

And all of the above is kind of ironic because personally I am an optimist about my life. Every morning I wake up will present new opportunities to make things better for myself and those around me. Even on the days when things go wrong, there are opportunities in the disaster.

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willowfall

Senator
My point being, the lesbian found you physically attractive. Just like a heterosexual relationship, most start by physical attraction. You might be in a relationship already, married etc. and still buy a slave for sexual purpose. In our fantasy world, lol. The slaves place is to serve the master/mistress needs. My friend would find your B size breasts(Beautiful) and would probably like to see you display them for her. Later, you might have a different relationship that was more than just physical. True

As a matter of fact I was discarded from her life before the end of the semester. She had gotten what she had wanted out of me.

Now if I had been her slave it might have been a little harder for her to get rid of me. Maybe my value had gone down, maybe the bottom of the market had fallen out because there was a glut of tall small chested brunettes, who knows.

A personal relationship always starts with lust. You do not see a girl's brains or personality from across the room you see her body.

Acquiring a slave is an economic decision. Much like buying a horse or a car it is a completely different dynamic. You may love the look of that BMW you ain't buying it if it doesn't come with an engine.

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willowfall
 

montycrusto

Slave Trader
Hello very nice blog, thanks for that. Do you know where to find more art made by Julia Ande Melissa? Thanks for help.
There’s some here
And plenty more on other threads, @melissa herself will point you in the right direction!
 

Paul1969

Executioner
As a matter of fact I was discarded from her life before the end of the semester. She had gotten what she had wanted out of me.

Now if I had been her slave it might have been a little harder for her to get rid of me. Maybe my value had gone down, maybe the bottom of the market had fallen out because there was a glut of tall small chested brunettes, who knows.

A personal relationship always starts with lust. You do not see a girl's brains or personality from across the room you see her body.

Acquiring a slave is an economic decision. Much like buying a horse or a car it is a completely different dynamic. You may love the look of that BMW you ain't buying it if it doesn't come with an engine.

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willowfall
The market never falls out for tall brunettes with beautiful, aesthetic breasts. It is her loss, you have had a partner for 10 years now!
 

wulf

Tribune
As a matter of fact I was discarded from her life before the end of the semester. She had gotten what she had wanted out of me.

Now if I had been her slave it might have been a little harder for her to get rid of me. Maybe my value had gone down, maybe the bottom of the market had fallen out because there was a glut of tall small chested brunettes, who knows.

A personal relationship always starts with lust. You do not see a girl's brains or personality from across the room you see her body.

Acquiring a slave is an economic decision. Much like buying a horse or a car it is a completely different dynamic. You may love the look of that BMW you ain't buying it if it doesn't come with an engine.

kisses

willowfall
This is a very interesting discussion from both of you. As a small anecdote.... my sister and her partner were together for almost 40 years until the partner passed away in 2010. They had both grown up during the 40's and 50's, and had had prior Lesbian relationships before they met. They were not into bdsm or any of that lifestyle, but they were happy together for the most part.
 

Paul1969

Executioner
This is a very interesting discussion from both of you. As a small anecdote.... my sister and her partner were together for almost 40 years until the partner passed away in 2010. They had both grown up during the 40's and 50's, and had had prior Lesbian relationships before they met. They were not into bdsm or any of that lifestyle, but they were happy together for the most part.
I hope your sister was happy! Together so long. Sorry to hear about her partner. I was really taken back by how many of my female relatives had dabbled with same sex relationships. However, I think it is easier for females to experiment in that sense.
 

wulf

Tribune
I hope your sister was happy! Together so long. Sorry to hear about her partner. I was really taken back by how many of my female relatives had dabbled with same sex relationships. However, I think it is easier for females to experiment in that sense.
They had their ups and downs like most couples do, but overall they were happy together.
 

melissa

Administrator
Staff member
Hello very nice blog, thanks for that. Do you know where to find more art made by Julia Ande Melissa? Thanks for help.
Hi @GNINAC You can use the Search box and tick titles only to find Sex Slaves, Medieval Horrors, Hartley House, The Parade Begins, A Spanking Brand New Thread, The Johnson Twins and several others.
 
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